[Politics] Brexit

[DIFFBROOK]

I think uncertainty will hit home for a lot of people.

For instance, when people start to book holidays abroad- and a lot are booked in October for next year, what will people face? Long queues in taking their car across the continent, will they be able to fly anywhere, will their driving licences and passports be valid?

To say it will be sorted -is a last minute jack approach for which if I operated like that in my job I would be sacked.

That is simply not how the world works. If an effort isn’t made to sort something, it doesn’t get sorted.
Yes, maybe they will have to refund all the air fares and maybe airlines will go bust. Maybe, maybe not. But in doing nothing, the government make these hitherto unlikely scenarios a real risk. Either way, uncertainty is not good for our country. And let’s face it, the Tory party hasn’t done much lately to inspire confidence in anything!

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Another consideration is data roaming which has been great over the last couple of years, but that will also go.

And yet it won't !

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

I'm not sure how the EU have ganged up, thwarted or bullied Britain by holding the consistent line that if you're leaving you can't cherry pick bits of our club and that we will also need a timescale for decisions.

Make no mistake, this total f*** up has been organised and carried out solely by the Britain, it's Government and the Leave voters. The EU, rather like a lot of remainers have simply been bemused bystanders throughout.

All that has happened in 2.5 years is that it has gradually dawned on a group of snake oil salesman and their naive followers that the fantasy world they were selling (and following) is not (and never was) possible. The reality has now set in and the blame game has started

Your points on post Brexit are well made. But this research indicates that BEFORE Brexit kicked-off we did rather well.

The UK was on the winning side in 88% of votes between 2009 and 2015, compared with 97% of votes between 2004 and 2009, according to research by the London School of Economics.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

There is absolutely no way flights would be grounded. It simply won't happen. The whole Aviation / Tourism industry would be up in arms. Hundreds of millions of pounds would be lost, and that would fall on the shoulders of the EU to sort out.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

And yet it won't !

Three was the only company offering 'Use as at home' until June last year. I doubt the phone companies will turn down a chance to charge more money.

 

[The Clamp]

There is absolutely no way flights would be grounded. It simply won't happen. The whole Aviation / Tourism industry would be up in arms. Hundreds of millions of pounds would be lost, and that would fall on the shoulders of the EU to sort out.

Yes. Disturbing scenario isn’t it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Three was the only company offering 'Use as at home' until June last year. I doubt the phone companies will turn down a chance to charge more money.

And they have also demonstrated they’re quite happy to collude to benefit themselves at the expense of the customer. This was stopped as were the extortionate roaming charges. The very reason cell phone companies have these issues, and others, should tell you something; [MENTION=1365]Westdene Seagull[/MENTION] is very naive at times.

 

[The Clamp]

And they have also demonstrated they’re quite happy to collude to benefit themselves at the expense of the customer. This was stopped as were the extortionate roaming charges. The very reason cell phone companies have these issues, and others, should tell you something; [MENTION=1365]Westdene Seagull[/MENTION] is very naive at times.

No, no. HT, calm down. All we have to do is sit back, chill and “the powers that be” will “sort it out”. Has the good job they are doing on Brexit not shown you that they can be relied upon to “sort it out”? Oh ye of little faith. Tsk.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

There is absolutely no way flights would be grounded. It simply won't happen. The whole Aviation / Tourism industry would be up in arms. Hundreds of millions of pounds would be lost, and that would fall on the shoulders of the EU to sort out.

Why is it our problem for you to arrange an agreement with us? There’s a whole wide world out there remember, plenty of opportunities beyond the EU, go and arrange a free-flying deal with India or Australia. The world is your oyster!

Being serious, I’m sure you’ll sort something out but your post and worry does demonstrate the EU is in the box set with this particular issue...no flights is more an issue for you than us....

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

No, no. HT, calm down. All we have to do is sit back, chill and “the powers that be” will “sort it out”. Has the good job they are doing on Brexit not shown you that they can be relied upon to “sort it out”? Oh ye of little faith. Tsk.

Quite.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Three was the only company offering 'Use as at home' until June last year. I doubt the phone companies will turn down a chance to charge more money.

And they have also demonstrated they’re quite happy to collude to benefit themselves at the expense of the customer. This was stopped as were the extortionate roaming charges. The very reason cell phone companies have these issues, and others, should tell you something; [MENTION=1365]Westdene Seagull[/MENTION] is very naive at times.

And yet Vodafone have said they will continue not to charge roaming fees as well. The government have said they will legislate againt any company that decides to re-introduce the charges. HT just hates the possibilty of Brexit being a success.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

And yet Vodafone have said they will continue not to charge roaming fees as well. The government have said they will legislate againt any company that decides to re-introduce the charges. HT just hates the possibilty of Brexit being a success.

Oh, Vodafone have said they will not charge anyone extra and the government will legislate. That’s alright then, I trust them both . What was it I said about naive?

 

[WATFORD zero]

And yet Vodafone have said they will continue not to charge roaming fees as well. The government have said they will legislate againt any company that decides to re-introduce the charges. HT just hates the possibilty of Brexit being a success.

I seem to remember that your definition of a successful Brexit was agreeing a trade deal but without staying in the single market, a customs union or under any jurisdiction of the ECJ.

So how successful do you think the 2 current options are ?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

There is absolutely no way flights would be grounded. It simply won't happen. The whole Aviation / Tourism industry would be up in arms. Hundreds of millions of pounds would be lost, and that would fall on the shoulders of the EU to sort out.

Yep, 100% on the EU to sort flights from the UK to USA.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Yep, 100% on the EU to sort flights from the UK to USA.

As an aside, I notice EasyJet are slowly and quietly moving to the EU. They’re actually announcing the flights they have moved to the new company as EasyJet Europe operated, and the planes are now being painted with the Austrian and EU flags. They’re also in the midst of a program to have the majority of their shares as EU owned. All of my Berlin Gatwick flights are now with the new operator.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

As an aside, I notice EasyJet are slowly and quietly moving to the EU. They’re actually announcing the flights they have moved to the new company as EasyJet Europe operated, and the planes are now being painted with the Austrian and EU flags. They’re also in the midst of a program to have the majority of their shares as EU owned. All of my Berlin Gatwick flights are now with the new operator.

BA have got a nice little side business as well, which is great for flights - not so great for the tax they pay into the UK

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

We're patently being expectation-managed for a No Deal Brexit. Utterly transparent and totally shameful.

 

[Simster]

As an aside, I notice EasyJet are slowly and quietly moving to the EU. They’re actually announcing the flights they have moved to the new company as EasyJet Europe operated, and the planes are now being painted with the Austrian and EU flags. They’re also in the midst of a program to have the majority of their shares as EU owned. All of my Berlin Gatwick flights are now with the new operator.

I mentioned this example last week or the week before and was told off by [MENTION=14132]Two Professors[/MENTION] because it was yesterday's news.

Apparently it doesn't count as worth mentioning if company's get the ball rolling to quietly leave the UK starting a few months ago.

 

[Pretty Plnk Fairy]

you Rodneys are just scared because a man of the poeple with his working class flat cap is coming to town

whats that coming over the hill yes its the Moggster yes its the Moggster



we one you lost get over it

Regards
DR

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I mentioned this example last week or the week before and was told off by [MENTION=14132]Two Professors[/MENTION] because it was yesterday's news.

Apparently it doesn't count as worth mentioning if company's get the ball rolling to quietly leave the UK starting a few months ago.

It’s yesterday’s in the sense they started this some time ago. But it’s todays news in the sense it’s becoming quite visible now. I had not noticed the new flags until recently and certainly not heard them announce a flight as Easyjet Europe before.

As an aside, EU flights have to inform the customer who operates their flight. I have been received emails as and when my flights are moved over to the new company.