[Politics] Brexit

[Two Professors]

I'm a separate person, as should be obvious. I'm not involved in the debate. I don't think either side is coming across particularly well in the debate. I just noticed some incorrect figures being bandied about and wanted to correct them. It's important that debates are based on accurate information, irrespective of your viewpoint, otherwise your viewpoint cannot be taken seriously. Especially if you wilfully ignore correct figures.

According to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, it would cost £8bn to abolish tuition fees and bring about the maintenance grant. This was calculated around the time of the last GE. However, something which I haven't pointed out, is that since then the Conservatives have increased the threshold for paying back the Plan 2 loans to £25,000. This means it would actually now cost less. Also, there is currently a review being carried out of HE funding and tuition fees, which may change things further.

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9217

Yeah,alright Plooks

 

[Thunder Bolt]

These people, Nigel? These people are the British Medical Association. You know, qualified doctors, and suchlike.

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This reply from Dr Rachel Clarke is in 10 parts. It's well worth a read.

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[seagulls4ever]

Yeah,alright Plooks

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I'm a separate person, as should be obvious. I'm not involved in the debate. I don't think either side is coming across particularly well in the debate. I just noticed some incorrect figures being bandied about and wanted to correct them. It's important that debates are based on accurate information, irrespective of your viewpoint, otherwise your viewpoint cannot be taken seriously. Especially if you wilfully ignore correct figures.

According to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, it would cost £8bn to abolish tuition fees and bring about the maintenance grant. This was calculated around the time of the last GE. However, something which I haven't pointed out, is that since then the Conservatives have increased the threshold for paying back the Plan 2 loans to £25,000. This means it would actually now cost less. Also, there is currently a review being carried out of HE funding and tuition fees, which may change things further.

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9217

Seriously fella, don't bother with him. He accuses everybody of being a second account, and is unbelievably thick. He's just not worth it.

 

[pastafarian]

No, your words



There's no option to extend EU membership with WTO no deal

So, you must be talking about TM's softest of soft Brexits - Your own words

Nope, your words that you are putting in my mouth.
Everyone knows there is no implementation period if there is NO agreement and a NO deal
But you were not talking about a WTO NO deal.
You were specific about an agreed solution

7 months to go to implement the agreed solution,

Here, have a hat for not reading what you wrote.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Nope, your words that you are putting in my mouth.
Everyone knows there is no implementation period if there is NO agreement and a NO deal
But you were not talking about a WTO NO deal.
You were specific about an agreed solution



Here, have a hat for not reading what you wrote.

You're going round in circles

So, to be clear then, what do think we should do, WTO no deal or TM's plan ?

Because if you want do deal, there's 7 months to implement it
If you claim we have until Dec 2020 that'll be TM's plan

It's fairly simple, Which do you want ?

 

[pastafarian]

You're going round in circles

So, to be clear then, what do think we should do, WTO no deal or TM's plan ?

To be clear, i am one of those people that understands the negotiations are still ongoing.
Seems daft for you to be offering an either or option now before they have concluded.Much can happen yet.

 

[WATFORD zero]

To be clear, i am one of those people that understands the negotiations are still ongoing.
Seems daft for you to be offering an either or option now before they have concluded.Much can happen yet.

So 2.5 years on, you still don't know what you want

Thinking about it, you are probably one of the very few happy Brexiteers around, still don't know what you want and still don't know what you're going to get

 

[pastafarian]

If you claim we have until Dec 2020 that'll be TM's plan

Since you edited....

Are you a fvckwit? It was you who said the "agreed solution" scenario and implementation of 7 months. I simply pointed out to you if there was an agreement 7 months is wrong, because currently the agreement as it stands at the moment has an implementation period going on to dec 2020.
Stop being so stupid.

 

[pastafarian]

So 2.5 years on, you still don't know what you want

Thinking about it, you are probably one of the very few happy Brexiteers around, still don't know what you want and still don't know what you're going to get

Its an ongoing negotiation you utter imbecile,that everyone apart from you it seems knew had a 2 year timeline according to article 50.
I still want out of the EU as i did before........you must be really dim not to know this.

 

[Two Professors]

Seriously fella, don't bother with him. He accuses everybody of being a second account, and is unbelievably thick. He's just not worth it.

Another stalker.Just happened to be passing by the thread and thought you'd stick your two punts worth in?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Its an ongoing negotiation you utter imbecile,that everyone apart from you it seems knew had a 2 year timeline according to article 50.
I still want out of the EU as i did before........you must be really dim not to know this.

You really should calm down, maybe a bit of puff and porn ?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Another stalker.Just happened to be passing by the thread and thought you'd stick your two punts worth in?

You really have a very high opinion of yourself, don't you?

Which is staggering, considering that you have the brain power of an amoeba.

 

[portslade seagull]

H

You really should calm down, maybe a bit of puff and porn ?

Why do you keep editing your posts when proved wrong. Just wondering ??

 

[Two Professors]

You really have a very high opinion of yourself, don't you?

Which is staggering, considering that you have the brain power of an amoeba.

The only thing staggering on here is you.Quite how you jump to an amoeba having a brain must be something to do with the bats in your belfry,so Pogue Mahone yourself,with no KY.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

The only thing staggering on here is you.Quite how you jump to an amoeba having a brain must be something to do with the bats in your belfry,so Pogue Mahone yourself,with no KY.

Kissing doesn't require KY.

I never said an amoeba had a brain. I said that you have the brain of an amoeba.

Frankly, you are thick as shit.

 

[daveinprague]

So, basically, with 'no deal' the country is ****ed for generations.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

So, basically, with 'no deal' the country is ****ed for generations.

Yes. It won't be allowed to happen.

 

[EddieReader]

It was never gonna be easy. Last minute deal as always. Don't let the DOOMERS get to yer.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

It was never gonna be easy. Last minute deal as always. Don't let the DOOMERS get to yer.

If they do come up with a last minute deal it's got to beeeeeee perfect, and worth it.