[Politics] Brexit

[Westdene Seagull]

Brexit needs to be stopped. Full stop. Not voted on. No 2nd referendum. Stopped. Full stop.

It really does amuse me how upset and angry you get about Brexit.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Magaluf?You're having a laugh.That was my third trip so far this year.The only folk I know that fly that many times a week are the aircrew,and the British Ambassador to the EU.And he won't need to fly back to Brussels after we leave!

It doesn’t surprise me at all that you do not know, or mix with, any frequent flyers.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Yeah. For your type, the one holiday to Magaluf a year, no big deal. I feel sorry for the folks who fly three, four, five times a week. They are gonna have a mare.

Given the culture vulture he pretended he is...No doubt he was off to Italy for some opera?

 

[vegster]

What must be even more sad for you is that, as bad as May is (and I think she’s crap and I usually vote Tory), as much of a mess Brexit is perceived to be due the the EU/HoL/Rebel MPs/etc., Labour did not have a great set of results.

Normally the government gets a bloody nose in the council elections, but the shower of sh1t that Labour are couldn’t even do that.

I think you have more problems as May will not be PM for the next election, but Corbyn will be. :lol;

Despite all the slander and negativity, the desperate media smears and anti Labour and anti Corbyn hype, the gap keeps narrowing.

10 lost years of stagnating or falling wages, too many people in minimum wage jobs/too many people working on zero hours contracts who are in poverty, too many food parcels given out. Public Service workers without any real wage rise for ten years because of austerity that they did not cause, thousands of schools protesting about loss of finances in the WorthLess campaign, too many young people saddled with a lifetime of debt from university education who will be unable to afford to buy a property and forced into a life of renting and never getting their foot on the property ladder.


I think that it will be your problem that May will not be PM for the next election, but Corbyn will be.

 

[GT49er]

The vote said nothing about customs union and single market. Only a third of leavers thought this meant leaving the CU. in fact I wonder how many had even heard of it. People keep saying "respect democracy" but can't explain what Brexit actually means.

It was so bloody obvious we didn't think it was necessary to explain to remainers that it was fine by us. Admittedly, we may have over-rated remainers' perspicacity...........

 

[Berty23]

It was so bloody obvious we didn't think it was necessary to explain to remainers that it was fine by us. Admittedly, we may have over-rated remainers' perspicacity...........

I am confused. Polls taken shortly after the vote show that leavers did not think it meant leaving the customs union (mainly because prominent leavers said this I assume). In the post referendum world people now think they knew all along when the data shows they didn't.

 

[The Clamp]

It really does amuse me how upset and angry you get about Brexit.

I'm neither. I'm pragmatic about it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Five Labour MPs in the NorthEast have seen the light,and decided to represent their constituents rather than toeing the party line.
Not a single job will be lost promised Corbyn! He lied.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Despite all the slander and negativity, the desperate media smears and anti Labour and anti Corbyn hype, the gap keeps narrowing.

10 lost years of stagnating or falling wages, too many people in minimum wage jobs/too many people working on zero hours contracts who are in poverty, too many food parcels given out. Public Service workers without any real wage rise for ten years because of austerity that they did not cause, thousands of schools protesting about loss of finances in the WorthLess campaign, too many young people saddled with a lifetime of debt from university education who will be unable to afford to buy a property and forced into a life of renting and never getting their foot on the property ladder.


I think that it will be your problem that May will not be PM for the next election, but Corbyn will be.

And Labour would be in the same boat as the Tories, it is what it is out there. People understand the situation, they will not be fooled by the fake pot of gold Labour keep promising people. We have seen and heard it all before I'm afraid. This has nothing to do with Brexit.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

tick tock , tick tock , tick tock
regards
DR

 

[Chicken Run]

Despite all the slander and negativity, the desperate media smears and anti Labour and anti Corbyn hype, the gap keeps narrowing.

10 lost years of stagnating or falling wages, too many people in minimum wage jobs/too many people working on zero hours contracts who are in poverty, too many food parcels given out. Public Service workers without any real wage rise for ten years because of austerity that they did not cause, thousands of schools protesting about loss of finances in the WorthLess campaign, too many young people saddled with a lifetime of debt from university education who will be unable to afford to buy a property and forced into a life of renting and never getting their foot on the property ladder.


I think that it will be your problem that May will not be PM for the next election, but Corbyn will be.

Why will it be his problem? If you and your type are to be believed, if Corbyn is PM it will be the second coming of Christ! A whole better world awaits!! I hope he gets in, I want to work less hours and have more free money, bring it on I say.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Why will it be his problem? If you and your type are to be believed, if Corbyn is PM it will be the second coming of Christ! A whole better world awaits!! I hope he gets in, I want to work less hours and have more free money, bring it on I say.

There's been plenty of opportunity to work less hours and have free money over the last 7 years.

It's just that you weren't part of the group that has benefited from this

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Good point, well made. I wonder what the vast majority of professional economists think of Brexit.

Apparently the professionals do not think the same as your good self

Well, I am only an amateur who deals in facts and have a modicum of interest and intelligence on the matter. I have studied the EU and come to my own conclusions. It may differ from some of these so called professionals but then I don't have a vested interest in perpetuating the myth that the EU is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Well, I am only an amateur who deals in facts and have a modicum of interest and intelligence on the matter. I have studied the EU and come to my own conclusions. It may differ from some of these so called professionals but then I don't have a vested interest in perpetuating the myth that the EU is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I used to play amateur football on Saturday afternoons and Sunday mornings for years. Occasionally when I played against a retired professional, I realised how out of my depth I was

 

[Chicken Run]

There's been plenty of opportunity to work less hours and have free money over the last 7 years.

It's just that you weren't part of the group that has benefited from this

Who is the group you talk of?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Who is the group you talk of?

The group who've benefited under the current government

 

[vegster]

And Labour would be in the same boat as the Tories, it is what it is out there. People understand the situation, they will not be fooled by the fake pot of gold Labour keep promising people. We have seen and heard it all before I'm afraid. This has nothing to do with Brexit.

See post #48116, you have stumbled on to my point, well done. Mrs May and her pushme pullyou Brexiteers and remainers are clinging on to that runaway mine truck a la Indiana Jones, everything is being raised except how to avoid the inevitable pancake at the end. Still no nearer ANY workable solutions to how to get out of Europe without commiting economic suicide. " But, The Labour party......"

 

[Chicken Run]

The group who've benefited under the current government

And who are they?

 

[WATFORD zero]

And who are they?

Well I've benefited from it and if I have, then the group we are talking about is a fairly sizeable proportion of the population.

Benefiting from a Government that I wouldn't and didn't vote for. Ironic isn't it ?

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Well, I am only an amateur who deals in facts and have a modicum of interest and intelligence on the matter. I have studied the EU and come to my own conclusions. It may differ from some of these so called professionals but then I don't have a vested interest in perpetuating the myth that the EU is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

When a number of eminent people commented adversely about Brexit you said that the people concerned were not experts in relevant fields - politics or economics presumably - so their views were unimportant. It was then pointed out to you that people who WERE experts in the relevant fields were also against Brexit, you implied that that was only because they had a 'vested interest'.

I'm sure you can understand that this looks inconsistent. More importantly can you tell us what vested interests all these professional economist have in bigging up the EU? Are they all employed by the EU? Or by Europhiles who sack any advisor who disagrees with them? By the BBC? By academic elites? What is your point?