Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊
[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
- Start date
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
I don't work for anybody-very happily retired.But if I was employed by the Sun,I'd be very happy working for a good employer who are the best in the business.Circulation figures don't lie!
The best in the business at what exactly? Defaming innocent parties?
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
That's like saying that the current boy band at the top of the chart are the best musicians.
pastafarian
Well-known member
Competing as United States of Europe wouldnt half be dull
Would make World Cups and European Championships very uninspiring as well.
No more scenes like these
you can keep that rubbish idea to yourself
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Why?Have they been at the top of the charts for 40 years?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Selling newspapers,and I'd be a bit careful on the defamation side of things.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
Workers rights are a major reason for those that put efforts in to persuading you to vote leave, in my opinion.
The parallels with the American situation are, those that do quite nicely thank you, would like to keep on doing so, without any interference from a larger body telling them they have to treat people more fairly, at the cost of profits.
The line we get fed is that the EU has pushed through a number of laws that we opposed and that we are being ridden roughshod over.
The truth is that a good number of those laws we opposed gave greater rights to workers, protected the health of citizens or protected the environment, but all cut profits for business. This is half the reason that during the campaign Cameron could not be telling you all the good the EU has done for citizens, because he would be back in Brussels the following month, arguing against the repeal of an opt out of the working time directive.
Farage does not give two hoots about the numbers of refugees we give asylum to, but he knows if he puts a picture of a long line of Syrian refugees and the words breaking point up, he will get a good number of people to shit a brick that we are about to be over run with Muslims, unless we vote leave.
Boris does not give two hoots for the level of NHS funding, but he knows if he tells us that we can throw £350million more at it if we come out, he will con a good number of people into voting leave.
Farage knows we will take in no more or less Syrians, Boris knows we will not be £350M a week better off, and if we were, knows the NHS will see little if any increase in its budget. They give us reasons that they think we will go for, that does not make it their reasons.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Good point but it's not the point I'm making. I suppose it comes down to how one regards the term 'best'.
In the case of the sun, 'best' can mean top-selling in terms of finances gained and influence in the country, or 'best' can signify the most successful in taking advantage of the lowest common denominator.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
It has made the Ryder cup a bit more competitive.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
For far too long now there have been a minority of people who loathe the Sun because it's the fashionable thing for impressionable people to do.They have probably never read it,but constantly spit their bile,without any good reason I've ever heard.Even the financial community on here have to admit it's City pages have consistently out-predicted the 'experts' of the FT etc.I know the teaching profession don't like it,but if they were better at their jobs,they wouldn't get so much coverage!
pastafarian
Well-known member
still a crap idea for the olympics though.....isnt it?
and world cups and european championships as well, if anyone was ever that mental to propose such a notion
Alternatively they might loathe The Sun for hacking the phone of a dead child, claiming 'The Truth' about Hillsborough, or making up interviews with the widows of war heroes.
As for consistently out-predicting the 'experts' of the FT, that's nonsense.
I totally agree with this and here lies a problem for me with the vote, I just can't understand how the Brexit voters didn't feel conned or see through this.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
No, circulation figures don't lie, but the newspaper does.
Why's that then? They have apologised re Hillsborough and admitted they were wrong, haven't they?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Are you a City journalist?If so,you would surely know of the share price annual competition.If not then you're writing rubbish.As for the stories,all journos make up whatever they think they can get away with.Just like politicians and economists.Are you still castigating Eden for the Suez crisis?It's history,and once the compensation is paid,most normal people forget about it.
Baldseagull
Well-known member
I read it occasionally if someone has left one in a site canteen or on the train, and when I do I am reminded of why I don't ever buy it.
There are a number of good reasons to loathe the Sun.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Is this not reason enough?
Were you there?Were family members involved?If not,why are you intruding on other people's grief?