[Politics] Brexit

[WATFORD zero]

Might be something to do with this type of thinking at the heart of our Government:

Dominic Raab under fire over Dover-Calais comments

Critics suggest the Brexit Secretary doesn't "understand the basics" after remarks about trade.

www.bbc.co.uk

Well I hope certain people on here now feel guilty at all those accusations thrown at Brexit voters that they didn't know what they were voting for at the referendum.

When the blame all along was really with the Brexit campaign who (as became blindingly obvious once they were given a clear run at it) didn't have the slightest idea of what it was they were proposing at the referendum. How the hell could Brexit voters be blamed for not knowing

 

[Lever]

Update....

 

[WATFORD zero]

Update....

So if we eventually put some controls in place during 2024 (and there's still plenty of time to delay them for a fifth time ), it will lead to empty shelves in shops were EU exporters really don't want to take on all the extra costs, increased inflation and cost of living where they do, and cost tens, if not hundreds of millions of further investment for us to put in place the remaining infrastructure, technology, systems and staff to actually enforce and manage these controls.

On the plus side, at least it does mean that the £200M Port Infrastructure Fund already spent by the government to pay for some additional border facilities required as a result of the UK’s departure from the EU doesn't go completely to waste. Isn't that a Brexit benefit ?

Oh, except Dover got their funding bid from the Port Infrastructure Fund turned down. And that was only for processing Brits trying to get into the EU, never mind controlling goods coming in from the EU

If you made this all up and wrote it down, nobody would believe you. I just thank God we've 'moved on' from Brexit

 

[happypig]

I really don't know why people don't just move on from Brexit and focus on more important problems like runaway inflation and rising cost of living ............... oh

Agreed. Brexit is done and we should look towards the future and how Britain's best interests are served; The first step should be to join the large trading bloc that is 22 miles away.
Tell the racists "we've done what you wanted, it was an almighty cluster-f***, now we're going to do what's best for the economy and the people"

 

[The Clamp]

This should ruffle a few arses in the Brexit camp.

Government retreats from Brexit bill plan to ditch EU laws

Climbdown likely after cross-party Lords revolt threatens to defeat Jacob Rees-Mogg’s retained EU law bill

www.theguardian.com

The slow but inevitable march towards reversing Brexit takes a rather large step in the right direction .

 

[Stat Brother]

French and German tourists turn their back on Brexit Britain

Industry leaders fear new entry restrictions and the UK’s tarnished image among some Europeans have caused a decline in EU visitors

www.theguardian.com

 

[WATFORD zero]

Well at least unlike Covid, the Ukraine war and VAR, the British electorate still have complete control over this particular clusterf*** and can start to reverse it.

Agreed. Brexit is done and we should look towards the future and how Britain's best interests are served; The first step should be to join the large trading bloc that is 22 miles away.
Tell the racists "we've done what you wanted, it was an almighty cluster-f***, now we're going to do what's best for the economy and the people"

It seems that just over two years of reality has been sufficient for the majority of the population to realise they've been totally stitched up by the Leave campaigners and their cabal Government, who have simply lined their pockets with everything they could take out of Britain (and still continue to do so) while crashing the economy. It's simply a matter of time until the opinion polls show sufficient support for rejoining the SM/CU that a political party will do it.

Hopefully, looking at the above, not long now (55%-32% at end of last month, so already well over 60/40 wrong to leave).


We can then start trying to recover the economy but still have years if not a decade of struggle ahead. Although if you ignore and fly in the face of all factual information, expert opinion and simple basic logic, then it can hardly be a surprise when there is a big price to pay

 

[Lever]

I have some friends stuck at Dover... this will cheer them up!

 

[Mental Lental]

UK to be one of worst performing economies this year, predicts IMF

It is predicted to be the worst performing out of the G20 nations in 2023, including Russia.

www.bbc.com

Worst economy of the G20. And that includes Russia. A country currently at war. What could’ve caused a country that was closing in on becoming the worlds 4th largest economy to become rock bottom of the league?

Also I like how the Beeb have obviously been told to never mention the “B” word. Instead we get “the reasons for the decline are high gas prices and a sluggish trade performance.”

 

[Thunder Bolt]

 

[Lever]

.... but, but

 

[worthingweird]

Starting to bare fruit...

 

[Lever]

Starting to bare fruit...

'bare' fruit is about right.... but not sure about just 'starting'; it's been bare from the outset.

This is how things stand today..... according to The New Statesman

 

[worthingweird]

'bare' fruit is about right.... but not sure about just 'starting'; it's been bare from the outset.

Bugger... knew i'd got that wrong

 

[Lever]

Bugger... knew i'd got that wrong

Your spelling?

Your vote?

Both?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Maybe while Biden's over we can get that brilliant US trade deal signed.

The one that so many Brexiteers on here were quoting this link on this very thread as "Great News" and an example of the huge benefits of Brexit

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-jo...n-line-for-us-trade-deal-post-brexit-10723644

Naïve ?

 

[nicko31]

Another Brexit victim of trade friction...

Centuries-old lace maker behind Princess of Wales’s wedding dress hit with ‘terminal’ post-Brexit bill

Family-owned company faces uncertain future because of ‘shortcomings’ in the UK-EU trade agreement

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[nicko31]

Maybe while Biden's over we can get that brilliant US trade deal signed.

The one that so many Brexiteers on here were quoting this link on this very thread as "Great News" and an example of the huge benefits of Brexit

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-jo...n-line-for-us-trade-deal-post-brexit-10723644

Naïve ?

Joe's headed South to Dublin.

US avoids post-Brexit trade deal talks with UK during Biden visit

Britain is looking to strike trade agreements following its departure from the European Union, but Mr Biden’s administration has put talks on ice

www.independent.co.uk

 

[BadFish]

.... but, but

I always forget that the Brexit vote was a rebellious attack on the establishment.

It really was a kick in the teeth for all those Tory politicians, there billionaire mates who have got richer from it and the billionaire owned media outlets.

It's like a reverse Robin Hood.

 

[WATFORD zero]

So if we eventually put some controls in place during 2024 (and there's still plenty of time to delay them for a fifth time ), it will lead to empty shelves in shops were EU exporters really don't want to take on all the extra costs, increased inflation and cost of living where they do, and cost tens, if not hundreds of millions of further investment for us to put in place the remaining infrastructure, technology, systems and staff to actually enforce and manage these controls.

I do wish people would get their facts right

UK plans streamlined post-Brexit border checks​

Britain, which left the EU's single market in January 2021, has delayed full implementation of border controls on several occasions because of worries about port disruption and COVID-19, and more recently the risk of adding to a cost-of-living crisis.

The new model announced on Wednesday will be backed by more than 1 billion pounds ($1.25 billion) in spending and will cut the need for physical checks "for many types of goods", a government statement said, adding that required checks will take place away from ports to prevent delays at the border.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/po...g-into-uk-be-streamlined-sky-news-2023-04-05/