[Politics] Brexit

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

That's that good and hope it all works out for you.

I was at a trade show in Europe last week, the consensus was from many European prospective clients "we like the UK, we like the way you do business but now its just too hard. We'll buy inside the EU and save the hassle".

Customs paperwork, costs and slow transit times.

We need an independent public enquiry, those that told all the lies needs to be held to account. First with booting these lying charlatan out of power for the foreseeable.

Sadly, not only do we get the governments we deserve, we also get the referendum results we deserve.

This country is full of thick little Englanders, whose confirmation bias about Jonny foreigner lead them by the nose to the slaughterhouse of Brexit. Most are still claiming it was the right move.

I may be able to 'ignore' the arseholes on NSC but. sadly, they still have a vote.

What next, I wonder? If I were a desperate tory MP I would start agitating for a referendum on hangining. Make it a manifesto promise. Then, boom! Another term of government. After all, nobody likes a nonce. What say you, br'er Starmer?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Scaremongering.

What I'd like to know is what is Starmer-Labour's real position on nonces and child killers?

 

[WATFORD zero]

Scaremongering.

What I'd like to know is what is Starmer-Labour's real position on nonces and child killers?

Christ, It looks like Is it POTG has hacked Harry's account

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Christ, It looks like Is it POTG has hacked Harry's account

Well, until Starmer comes out and denies what is being said about labour's plan for nonces and child killers, all I can say is thank goodness for Sunak and the conservative's bold decision to take us out of the common market.

 

[Bob!]

Cross party Brexit summit held asking
How do we make Brexit work?

Revealed: secret cross-party summit held to confront failings of Brexit

Leading Brexiters and remainers, including Michael Gove and David Lammy, met for two-day ‘private discussion’ with diplomats and business leaders

www.theguardian.com

 

[peterward]

 

[Jim in the West]

Cross party Brexit summit held asking
How do we make Brexit work?

Revealed: secret cross-party summit held to confront failings of Brexit

Leading Brexiters and remainers, including Michael Gove and David Lammy, met for two-day ‘private discussion’ with diplomats and business leaders

www.theguardian.com

Pity they didn’t do this BEFORE the referendum….everything which is going wrong with Brexit was entirely predictable 7 years ago.

 

[Blue3]

Cross party Brexit summit held asking
How do we make Brexit work?

Revealed: secret cross-party summit held to confront failings of Brexit

Leading Brexiters and remainers, including Michael Gove and David Lammy, met for two-day ‘private discussion’ with diplomats and business leaders

www.theguardian.com

A here the thing when the referendum result was known the government under Cameron should have said right we know the result now lets end the division and get all interested parties together to plan how we move forward, instead Cameron runs off May is installed as a puppet leader the ERG run a mock and here we are a complete mess. I have no idea what this Brexit summit can achieve but I wish it luck

 

[chickens]

Generally, it refers to people who spend far too much of their spare time (we are talking years now) regurgitating tweets, posts, and links from their #FBPE social media echo chamber/James O'Brien /Guardian/Independent, etc as they appear completely incapable of making any original or intelligent points themselves. When challenged they usually start mentioning multi accounts or divert to a completely different topic ... in other words, the last few pages on this thread repeated ad nauseam.

I’m sorry, you’ve had a long time to give us the benefits of Brexit, and the best you’ve been able to manage is businesses struggling to recruit, and a British enterprise trying to be part of modern vehicle and energy infrastructure going into administration, and having its assets bought at firesale prices by an Australian company. If Brexit was all about sovereignty, explain how that’s a win?

You’re embarrassing yourself, which is absolutely your choice to make, but if you genuinely believe that we’re competently governed and that this Conservative negotiated Brexit has been a success for Britain, I for one can’t take you seriously. You are absolutely detached from reality.

 

[WATFORD zero]

So 7 years after they campaigned for it, lied constantly about it and targeted the various sections of the electorate that they needed to get it voted through, they now want to ask others how to make it work ?

It would and will never work. The only thing that there can be any control over is the level of clusterf***. I suppose that with the complete idiocy displayed throughout from the top to the bottom of the Leave campaigners, supporters and voters, maybe we should be grateful that they only went for a mid clusterf*** and not the full on 'No Deal' some were asking for.

I wonder how long it will be until common sense prevails and we rejoin the CU to try and lessen the impact, otherwise known as becoming 'a vassal state' according to Farage, Johnson and co and a few of their followers on here

 

[Eric the meek]

So 7 years after they campaigned for it, lied constantly about it and targeted the various sections of the electorate that they needed to get it voted through, they now want to ask others how to make it work ?

It would and will never work. The only thing that there can be any control over is the level of clusterf***. I suppose that with the complete idiocy displayed throughout from the top to the bottom of the Leave campaigners, supporters and voters, maybe we should be grateful that they only went for a mid clusterf*** and not the full on 'No Deal' some were asking for.

I wonder how long it will be until common sense prevails and we rejoin the CU to try and lessen the impact, otherwise known as becoming 'a vassal state' according to Farage, Johnson and co and a few of their followers on here

Only a matter of time. Until Boris makes his comeback to take Britain back in. 'Britain back in'. (I'm only half joking).

 

[chickens]

So 7 years after they campaigned for it, lied constantly about it and targeted the various sections of the electorate that they needed to get it voted through, they now want to ask others how to make it work ?

It would and will never work. The only thing that there can be any control over is the level of clusterf***. I suppose that with the complete idiocy displayed throughout from the top to the bottom of the Leave campaigners, supporters and voters, maybe we should be grateful that they only went for a mid clusterf*** and not the full on 'No Deal' some were asking for.

I wonder how long it will be until common sense prevails and we rejoin the CU to try and lessen the impact, otherwise known as becoming 'a vassal state' according to Farage, Johnson and co and a few of their followers on here

Joining some form of Customs Union is the only sane route out of the cul de sac we’ve allowed ourselves to be driven into. For ideological reasons the Conservative Party can’t do that, so we need another party in government.

 

[Eric the meek]

Joining some form of Customs Union is the only sane route out of the cul de sac we’ve allowed ourselves to be driven into. For ideological reasons the Conservative Party can’t do that, so we need another party in government.

There's a lot of water that needs to flow under the Brexit bridge first.

The article says:

'Labour, which has said it will not take the UK back into the EU, the single market or customs union, has, however, already committed to using the 2025 review of the TCA to try to build trade and other links with the EU.'

But at least the water is beginning to flow. It has taken a long time to get to this.

 

[Randy McNob]

Cross party Brexit summit held asking
How do we make Brexit work?

Revealed: secret cross-party summit held to confront failings of Brexit

Leading Brexiters and remainers, including Michael Gove and David Lammy, met for two-day ‘private discussion’ with diplomats and business leaders

www.theguardian.com

Am I reading that rght? Surely a celebration of Brexit with high 5's and champagne all round?

A statue should be unveiled (ala Rocky III) of Boris for getting Brexit done

 

[Randy McNob]

There's a lot of water that needs to flow under the Brexit bridge first.

The article says:

'Labour, which has said it will not take the UK back into the EU, the single market or customs union, has, however, already committed to using the 2025 review of the TCA to try to build trade and other links with the EU.'

But at least the water is beginning to flow. It has taken a long time to get to this.

Starmer is just being diplomatic, he knows if he was anti Brexit the other side would use it as ammunition. Win power first then just reverse Brexit

 

[Is it PotG?]

Starmer is just being diplomatic, he knows if he was anti Brexit the other side would use it as ammunition. Win power first then just reverse Brexit

I'll bet you £1 / €1 that even when he gets to be PM this will not happen.

 

[Eric the meek]

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If it was secret, I wonder who leaked it, and what their motives were?

To expose the failure of Brexit (that the organisers understandably wanted to keep out of the public eye)?
Or, fearing a watering down of Brexit, to try and sabotage the meeting?

 

[The Clamp]

I'll bet you £1 that even when he gets to be PM this will not happen.

i doubt it will happen under Starmer. What I think he will do, as indeed Sunak is actively attempting and failing to do now, is improve our connection and relationship with the EU.

Then we will likely rejoin the single market, then I’d say within 5-10 years, we’ll be back in the EU. And I wouldn’t expect a referendum on the matter this time. No party is going to risk putting this into the hands of the voter ever again.

Either way, the tide is turning back towards the EU and it’ll gather momentum the worse life gets in the U.K.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I'll bet you £1 / €1 that even when he gets to be PM this will not happen.

Since you're obviously dying to make some sort of contribution to the Brexit discussion, you could actually make it meaningful and explain what do you think should happen ? Maybe just address the Northern Ireland protocol or the lack of Import controls for starters

 

[WATFORD zero]

It appears that the financial backers of Brexit seem to think there's still money to be made by crashing the British Economy further

Fury among the Tories after Conservative MPs claim they were offered a '£400,000 bribe'​

The Tory Party is considering a complaint to Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle after MPs said they had been approached with a £400,000-plus ‘bribe’ to join Nigel Farage’s Reform UK party. Sources said a number of Conservative MPs ‘have reported to senior party staff that they have been offered significant financial incentives to defect’.

They say the offers were based on an agreement that if they joined Reform UK – founded with support from Mr Farage in 2018 as the Brexit Party – they would be guaranteed to receive several years of their MP’s salary if they lost their seat after defecting.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ervative-MPs-claim-offered-400-000-bribe.html

It's ironic that whilst there is so much discussion around Scams and Frauds on all types of media, such a large one could have been enacted on so many. But all you can do is highlight it, if people are really determined to be scammed you can't stop it