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[Politics] Brexit
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Was he thinking of Nazi Boy and Bag O'Shite, when he mentioned 'people'.
THE INDEPENDENT AUGUST 26th
Christmas is cancelled – and the Brexiteers will tell us it’s a jolly good thing too
Is it just me or does Christmas get cancelled earlier every year? There really should be a law. No cancelling Christmas until at least the end of the British summer, which really should be starting any day now.
What Christmas will find especially hard to take is that it’s been cancelled for reasons entirely beyond its control. It hasn’t said something racist on a podcast, or taken the knee on GB News.
It’s been cancelled by Iceland, of all people, and all credit to them as well. For half a decade now, the same old dreary people have been harping on with the same dreary nonsense about Brexit. You know the repertoire by now. It’ll destabilise the peace in Northern Ireland, it will make us all poorer, it’s ruined the country’s international reputation. Trouble is, no one cares about any of that stuff, but tell them Christmas is cancelled and they’ll sit up and listen.
Which is exactly what the managing director of Iceland did, on the radio on Wednesday morning. There’s still a shortage of 100,000 lorry drivers in this country, and we are now well into that part of the year when lorries are very much required to start building up retailers’ Christmas stockpiles, and it simply isn’t happening and that means, you’ve guessed it... In the words of Richard Walker: “We’ve already had one Christmas cancelled at the last minute and I’d hate this one to be problematic as well.”
Wallop. There it is. Christmas is not yet cancelled, but it might be, and there’s nothing more serious than that. In January of this year, you may recall, several thousand people “died needlessly” in the words of Dominic Cummings, in order to spare Boris Johnson the sight of one or two newspaper front pages accusing him of having cancelled Christmas. So you can bet they’ll be taking this one very seriously indeed.
A Brexit-cancelled Christmas is a more nuanced matter than a Covid-cancelled Christmas. Nobody wanted a Covid-cancelled Christmas, but if Christmas goes to sh*t for Brexit reasons there will, naturally, be plenty of people on hand to say that, actually, it’s exactly what they wanted and indeed voted for.
At some point, round about mid 2017 – when it became clear that there was precious little point pretending Brexit was going to do anything other than lower living standards – a worse quality of life became something to aspire to. By 2019, the priest turned columnist Giles Fraser was arguing that Brexit would force people to wipe their parent’s bums for them and that was a good thing, whether the parents wanted them to or not. The only good Brexit was one that was so economically horrific it would prevent people being able to leave the towns they grew up in (which in fairness, had it happened 2,000 years ago, would at least have made life easier for the donkey).
There can be no doubt that a cancelled Christmas would instantly become a real Christmas. A chance to get back to its true meaning. Christmas is actually better when there’s nothing to eat and you’re trying to explain to the kids that Santa is definitely real, there’s just been a bit of a mix-up and absolutely everybody’s presents have all been delivered to one lucky little boy who lives in a giant lorry park in Kent, but that the elves are working as hard as they can to resolve the issue and are hoping to have it sorted by April.
There is a vaguely serious point lurking somewhere within. There’s no doubt now that Brexit has real-life consequences, that it has made things worse and it will affect everyone, though there remains no clear path for remedying said problems.
If there were easy ways to sort out supply chains, if there were tangible solutions (as opposed to ideological talking points) to specific practical problems like the Dover-Calais crossing and the Irish border, then after five-and-a-half years somebody would have come up with them, but they haven’t. And they are problems that are only going to get worse, because they can’t be solved.
Naturally, Johnson will blame it all on Brussels, but it won’t work forever. Probably not, anyway. There will have to come a time when it’s clear that this is just the way things are now. This is the best we can do. And there will have to be some kind of reckoning, even if there is no clear political pathway to remedying anything.
But that won’t be for a while yet, and there’ll be plenty of cheap and temporary fixes to be found along the way. As Boris Johnson will already have worked out, the threat of a cancelled Christmas is an opportunity for him save it, just as he tried his very best to do last year, when we all know what happened.
This will be an opportunity to do the only thing he is good at, and that, you can be sure, will involve some two-bit last-minute breakthrough and a chance for him to dress up as Father Christmas in the classic Coke ad and drive a twinkling, sleigh bell-covered articulated lorry down some country lane somewhere. But reality can’t be deferred forever. It really can’t.
Christmas is cancelled – and the Brexiteers will tell us it’s a jolly good thing too
Is it just me or does Christmas get cancelled earlier every year? There really should be a law. No cancelling Christmas until at least the end of the British summer, which really should be starting any day now.
What Christmas will find especially hard to take is that it’s been cancelled for reasons entirely beyond its control. It hasn’t said something racist on a podcast, or taken the knee on GB News.
It’s been cancelled by Iceland, of all people, and all credit to them as well. For half a decade now, the same old dreary people have been harping on with the same dreary nonsense about Brexit. You know the repertoire by now. It’ll destabilise the peace in Northern Ireland, it will make us all poorer, it’s ruined the country’s international reputation. Trouble is, no one cares about any of that stuff, but tell them Christmas is cancelled and they’ll sit up and listen.
Which is exactly what the managing director of Iceland did, on the radio on Wednesday morning. There’s still a shortage of 100,000 lorry drivers in this country, and we are now well into that part of the year when lorries are very much required to start building up retailers’ Christmas stockpiles, and it simply isn’t happening and that means, you’ve guessed it... In the words of Richard Walker: “We’ve already had one Christmas cancelled at the last minute and I’d hate this one to be problematic as well.”
Wallop. There it is. Christmas is not yet cancelled, but it might be, and there’s nothing more serious than that. In January of this year, you may recall, several thousand people “died needlessly” in the words of Dominic Cummings, in order to spare Boris Johnson the sight of one or two newspaper front pages accusing him of having cancelled Christmas. So you can bet they’ll be taking this one very seriously indeed.
A Brexit-cancelled Christmas is a more nuanced matter than a Covid-cancelled Christmas. Nobody wanted a Covid-cancelled Christmas, but if Christmas goes to sh*t for Brexit reasons there will, naturally, be plenty of people on hand to say that, actually, it’s exactly what they wanted and indeed voted for.
At some point, round about mid 2017 – when it became clear that there was precious little point pretending Brexit was going to do anything other than lower living standards – a worse quality of life became something to aspire to. By 2019, the priest turned columnist Giles Fraser was arguing that Brexit would force people to wipe their parent’s bums for them and that was a good thing, whether the parents wanted them to or not. The only good Brexit was one that was so economically horrific it would prevent people being able to leave the towns they grew up in (which in fairness, had it happened 2,000 years ago, would at least have made life easier for the donkey).
There can be no doubt that a cancelled Christmas would instantly become a real Christmas. A chance to get back to its true meaning. Christmas is actually better when there’s nothing to eat and you’re trying to explain to the kids that Santa is definitely real, there’s just been a bit of a mix-up and absolutely everybody’s presents have all been delivered to one lucky little boy who lives in a giant lorry park in Kent, but that the elves are working as hard as they can to resolve the issue and are hoping to have it sorted by April.
There is a vaguely serious point lurking somewhere within. There’s no doubt now that Brexit has real-life consequences, that it has made things worse and it will affect everyone, though there remains no clear path for remedying said problems.
If there were easy ways to sort out supply chains, if there were tangible solutions (as opposed to ideological talking points) to specific practical problems like the Dover-Calais crossing and the Irish border, then after five-and-a-half years somebody would have come up with them, but they haven’t. And they are problems that are only going to get worse, because they can’t be solved.
Naturally, Johnson will blame it all on Brussels, but it won’t work forever. Probably not, anyway. There will have to come a time when it’s clear that this is just the way things are now. This is the best we can do. And there will have to be some kind of reckoning, even if there is no clear political pathway to remedying anything.
But that won’t be for a while yet, and there’ll be plenty of cheap and temporary fixes to be found along the way. As Boris Johnson will already have worked out, the threat of a cancelled Christmas is an opportunity for him save it, just as he tried his very best to do last year, when we all know what happened.
This will be an opportunity to do the only thing he is good at, and that, you can be sure, will involve some two-bit last-minute breakthrough and a chance for him to dress up as Father Christmas in the classic Coke ad and drive a twinkling, sleigh bell-covered articulated lorry down some country lane somewhere. But reality can’t be deferred forever. It really can’t.
Pretty pink fairy
Banned
- Jan 30, 2008
- 31,981
You seem to be thinking about us all the time Sweetie, I'm flattered
Regards
DF
nicko31
Well-known member
How about 5 years ago from Priti Patel? Speaking at the Association of Licensed Multiple Retailers...
Our hands are tied and we are powerless to act on reducing the burdens of red tape.
Where did it all go wrong?
Baker lite
Banned
You have a very aggressive stance, I’m not sure I like your attitude.
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Instead of personal exchanges let's focus on the post Brexit fall out....
Brexit Britain booming? Are there really people who still believe we are 'winning' something? If so what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7oiyvxjFNs
Brexit Britain booming? Are there really people who still believe we are 'winning' something? If so what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7oiyvxjFNs
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- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,767
Moronic Brexit supporting MP comes up with moronic proposal to resolve problems caused by Brexit 
A Tory MP piped up with a ‘solution’ for the lorry driver shortage - but was promptly shut down
Following news of continued shortages in supermarkets and food-chains, John Redwood, the MP for Wokingham piped up to offer his two cents on the issue today. He said businesses should simply “recruit more” drivers and pay them more as well.
[tweet]1430769535091675140[/tweet]
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/a-tory-mp-piped-up-with-a-solution-for-the-lorry-driver-shortage-but-was-promptly-shut-down/ar-AANMvDb?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBoPWjQ
Just when you think the utter and complete idiocy of the whole clusterf*** and it's supporters really couldn't get any worse
A Tory MP piped up with a ‘solution’ for the lorry driver shortage - but was promptly shut down
Following news of continued shortages in supermarkets and food-chains, John Redwood, the MP for Wokingham piped up to offer his two cents on the issue today. He said businesses should simply “recruit more” drivers and pay them more as well.
[tweet]1430769535091675140[/tweet]
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/a-tory-mp-piped-up-with-a-solution-for-the-lorry-driver-shortage-but-was-promptly-shut-down/ar-AANMvDb?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBoPWjQ
Just when you think the utter and complete idiocy of the whole clusterf*** and it's supporters really couldn't get any worse
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
This is on a par with the Minister of State for Wales not recognising the Welsh National Anthem.Moronic Brexit supporting MP comes up with moronic proposal to resolve problems caused by Brexit
A Tory MP piped up with a ‘solution’ for the lorry driver shortage - but was promptly shut down
Following news of continued shortages in supermarkets and food-chains, John Redwood, the MP for Wokingham piped up to offer his two cents on the issue today. He said businesses should simply “recruit more” drivers and pay them more as well.
[tweet]1430769535091675140[/tweet]
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/a-tory-mp-piped-up-with-a-solution-for-the-lorry-driver-shortage-but-was-promptly-shut-down/ar-AANMvDb?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBoPWjQ
Just when you think the utter and complete idiocy of the whole clusterf*** and it's supporters really couldn't get any worse
Baker lite
Banned
JOBS JOBS JOBS.
https://twitter.com/jefferson_mfg/status/1431243673619083264?s=21
POST BREXIT BRITAIN IS BOOMING.
Born to win.
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https://twitter.com/jefferson_mfg/status/1431243673619083264?s=21
POST BREXIT BRITAIN IS BOOMING.
Born to win.
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- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,767
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,767
Exactly, Fruit picking, Food preparation, Care Homes, Hospitality, Catering, HGV drivers, there are hundreds of thousands of minimum wage 'careers' for a West Durrington Train driver with their own caravan and a bit of ambition
Toot Toot
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vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
Latest Self inflicted wound incoming !....
"Food industry proposes ‘Covid recovery visa’ after warnings of surplus pig cull
As many as 70,000 animals that should have gone to slaughter are stranded on UK farms amid staff shortages, NPA says "
I'm going to post the link to the article which, as usual, references the lack of overseas workers at the thin end of the wedge meaning, drivers, pickers, packers etc, the ones that made our lives better by working for shit wages before we " took back control " and realised we cannot support ourselves without them ... This sentence is the one that really hits home for me but, the fingers in ears " La la la la la " usual suspects won't acknowledge it is, this ...
“If government doesn’t take action, perfectly healthy pigs will end up being destroyed and wasted and more pork will have to be imported from the EU.”
So, a double whammy of stupidity.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/27/worker-shortages-leave-uk-farms-with-70000-surplus-pigs
"Food industry proposes ‘Covid recovery visa’ after warnings of surplus pig cull
As many as 70,000 animals that should have gone to slaughter are stranded on UK farms amid staff shortages, NPA says "
I'm going to post the link to the article which, as usual, references the lack of overseas workers at the thin end of the wedge meaning, drivers, pickers, packers etc, the ones that made our lives better by working for shit wages before we " took back control " and realised we cannot support ourselves without them ... This sentence is the one that really hits home for me but, the fingers in ears " La la la la la " usual suspects won't acknowledge it is, this ...
“If government doesn’t take action, perfectly healthy pigs will end up being destroyed and wasted and more pork will have to be imported from the EU.”
So, a double whammy of stupidity.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/27/worker-shortages-leave-uk-farms-with-70000-surplus-pigs
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Randy McNob
> > > > > > Cardiff > > > > >
- Jun 13, 2020
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Exactly, Fruit picking, Food preparation, Care Homes, Hospitality, Catering, HGV drivers, there are hundreds of thousands of minimum wage 'careers' for a West Durrington Train driver with their own caravan and a bit of ambition
Toot Toot
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This guy makes a good point, why would a 1st world country want it's own people to take over the menial and low paid work while allowing high skilled work to go to foreign workers? It's a backward and unaspirational
[tweet]1430805693712551936[/tweet]
Randy McNob
> > > > > > Cardiff > > > > >
- Jun 13, 2020
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- Jul 10, 2003
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You really couldn't make it up
Except that Johnson, Farage and co made the whole thing up and the terminally stupid fell for it
Baker lite
Banned
Jobs jobs jobs.
https://twitter.com/jefferson_mfg/status/1432027854422913032?s=21
Post Brexit Britain is booming .
Go go global Britain.
https://twitter.com/jefferson_mfg/status/1432027854422913032?s=21
Post Brexit Britain is booming .
Go go global Britain.