[Politics] Brexit

[Is it PotG?]

I always find it odd that Murdoch FM, obvs massively pro-brexit, find such numpties to blow the Brexit trumpet. barking out the usual read-off-the-card cliches. I guess they know their target audience

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You being among them it would seem.

 

[Lever]

You being among them it would seem.

...and are you the voice of reason and objectivity? Evidence?

 

[ManOfSussex]

Rumours of a 'deal' abound. On Christmas Eve too. They'll be some warm Gammon tomorrow......................

 

[Randy McNob]

You being among them it would seem.

absolutely, angry Brexiters are comedy gold

 

[timbha]

Rumours of a 'deal' abound. On Christmas Eve too. They'll be some warm Gammon tomorrow......................

No longer rumours. Confirmed on 10pm news

 

[Bodian]

From the Independent "a French source boasted that the British had made “huge concessions” in areas like fishing that cleared the way to an agreement."

 

[clapham_gull]

Rumours of a 'deal' abound. On Christmas Eve too. They'll be some warm Gammon tomorrow......................

Roasting, if the reports are true that Boris has backed down over fishing.

 

[clapham_gull]

Farage not happy

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[Randy McNob]

Roasting, if the reports are true that Boris has backed down over fishing.

not bullied?

 

[Baldseagull]

So what if the last two candidates are a Nigerian and a South Korean. Perhaps they are the last two because they have the best CV.

The Director General doesn’t “run” the WTO as you seem to have imagined. The role has little power over policy as its mainly advisory. The WTO is a forum, it is run by its member governments. It is the membership that makes the major WTO decisions. Representative ministers, delegates and ambassadors agree by consensus and the agreements are ratified in member parliaments.

So when you ask who elects the WTO



It is a daft question. You clearly don’t understand the WTO is a forum for facilitating trade and resolving trade differences and not a government.

unelected bureaucrats?

 

[Randy McNob]

unelected bureaucrats?

We take back control and sovereignty and give to the WTO where we have no power or influence

 

[Baldseagull]

Farage not happy

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I hope he sees this Brexit as a failure, he promised to **** off and live elsewhere if Brexit was a failure.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

absolutely, angry Brexiters are comedy gold

Not nearly as funny as people who can't accept a referendum result or come to terms with a huge Tory majority feeling the need to set up a second/third account on a football message board with a 'hilarious' username trying to wind up Brexiteers as some sort of second prize

 

[pastafarian]

We take back control and sovereignty and give to the WTO where we have no power or influence

Which sovereign powers have the UK taken back from the EU and given to the WTO instead?
Do you want the EU to quit being members of the WTO and no longer partake in global trade agreements and discussions?

 

[pastafarian]

Not nearly as funny as people who can't accept a referendum result or come to terms with a huge Tory majority feeling the need to set up a second/third account on a football message board with a 'hilarious' username trying to wind up Brexiteers as some sort of second prize

Bring back plooks.......a far better quality village idiot.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Bring back plooks.......a far better quality village idiot.

No one can surpass Plooksie but it's quite a crowded field vying for that title with all the new accounts set up in the last couple of years

 

[clapham_gull]

If the ERG vote against the deal, will Boris remove the whip ?

 

[Eeyore]

What we know in advance about the trade deal:

Johnson will be evangelical about having fulfilled his promise.

The government will present it as a Churchillian victory for sovereign rights- It won't be

The EU will present it as having protected the integrity of the single market- Questionable.

The right wing press will probably side more with Johnson in the hope of maintaining the Tories polling prospects.

The true cost of this farce will never be fully known.

At least we can all move on now. The Brexiteers, almost, got what they wanted. But at what costs ?

 

[Billy the Fish]

What we know in advance about the trade deal:

Johnson will be evangelical about having fulfilled his promise.

The government will present it as a Churchillian victory for sovereign rights- It won't be

The EU will present it as having protected the integrity of the single market- Questionable.

The right wing press will probably side more with Johnson in the hope of maintaining the Tories polling prospects.

The true cost of this farce will never be fully known.

At least we can all move on now. The Brexiteers, almost, got what they wanted. But at what costs ?

It's inevitable that both sides will claim victory, it'll be like two boxers lifting their arms at the final bell.

All the remainer EU fanboys on this thread will claim victory for the EU, it's already happening!
Expect to read "bullied" and "caved in" about a 1000 times.
Expect plenty of straw man arguments on how leavers didn't get what they wanted.

 

[vegster]

It's inevitable that both sides will claim victory, it'll be like two boxers lifting their arms at the final bell.

All the remainer EU fanboys on this thread will claim victory for the EU, it's already happening!
Expect to read "bullied" and "caved in" about a 1000 times.
Expect plenty of straw man arguments on how leavers didn't get what they wanted.

You forgot to add that it will take some to work through the fine print and find out the benefits and competitive advantages of membership has been lost...and then even longer before anyone can find anything beneficial we have gained.

These were of course, negotiations where both sides knew they were going to worse off post transition, it was a matter of negotiatiing how much loss was acceptable.