[Politics] Brexit

[Pretty pink fairy]

Yes I agree covid dwarfs Brexit but not by 1000 of times as you expressed. There are industries that are not effected so much by Covid that will be crushed by Brexit. Its the worse possible time to be imposing trade sanctions on ourselves and f**king over manufacturing, pharma, financial services, agri and more, the industries that provide high quality jobs that ultimately pay the nations bills

Don't think the negative effects Brexit (formerly sunny uplands) can be buried under covid, it won't wash

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You've still got the EHIC so stop moaning
Regards
DF

 

[Driver8]

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/p...will-back-down-in-brexit-talks-115657683.html

 

[WATFORD zero]

You are overplaying the effects of Brexit, massively underplaying the effects of Covid and I'm afraid government incompetence has been with us since the dawn of time. We all have to acknowledge that the overall likely effect of Brexit is but a dribble of water compared to the Tsunami of Covid. Brexit wouldn't have brought whole industries to its knees. Airline, Cruise, Tourism, Hospitality and thousands and thousands of businesses almost totally reliant on the office worker. Theatre, Cinema, Sport, Music and outside and inside attractions all decimated. Potentially 3-4 million unemployed, hundreds of thousands of businesses gone forever and underlying trends in society and business accelerated by 5-10 years in six months. Covid and its effects are here, right now and are undermining the whole fabric of society. There are no liars and charlatans where Covid is concerned. It is a destroyer on a global scale.
Covid dwarfs Brexit in impact. There is simply no comparison. None of us have a crystal ball about what trade deals are or are not going to happen and quite frankly, the majority of the population are not worrying themselves senseless over Brexit. In fact, it is inconsequential to those fighting to survive at the moment. There are 1000x more lives and livelihoods at risk due to Covid. Whole swathes of industry, who would have been relatively untouched by Brexit, are in survival mode. That is the reality.

You told us last week that you finally accepted that Brexit isn't going to be the wonderful opportunity for SME's ('the lifeblood of the economy') that you've been claiming for the last 4 years and it's going to be an economic disaster, but on a lesser scale than Covid.

Is this latest defence of Brexit going to be some sort of weekly event from you ? Yeah, Brexit is shit but Covid is worse

I'm sure that will be really reassuring for businesses and jobs struggling through Covid, only to be tipped over the edge by Brexit

 

[A1X]

It'll be interesting to see whether the whole "it's Covid, not Brexit" defence manages to hang around if, once Covid recedes, EU nations come bouncing back while we're still stuck in a lorry park in Kent

 

[Is it PotG?]

It'll be interesting to see whether the whole "it's Covid, not Brexit" defence manages to hang around if, once Covid recedes, EU nations come bouncing back while we're still stuck in a lorry park in Kent

I'm sure that there will be enough NSC experts to put us straight.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I'm sure that there will be enough NSC experts to put us straight.

I don't think you need 'NSC experts'. The vast majority of people with two brain cells can now see the Emperor's new clothes of Brexit for what they really are.

That's why nobody but the most foolish even bothers trying defend it any more (beyond 'well it's not as bad as Covid')

 

[Is it PotG?]

I don't think you need 'NSC experts'. The vast majority of people with two brain cells can now see the Emperor's new clothes of Brexit for what they really are.

That's why nobody but the most foolish even bothers trying defend it any more

Now why isn't there more of this insight, intelligence and candour on here?

Thank you.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Now why isn't there more of this insight, intelligence and candour on here?

Thank you.

Between you and me, there always has been.

It was just lost in amongst all the vacuous inane ramblings repeated by various Farage, Johnson and Cummings supporters on here over the last 4 years. Now the vast majority have either disappeared completely or are too embarrassed to post on here, you can find the pearls of wisdom that were there all along.

And no need for the thanks, you're welcome. I like to think that educating, informing and bringing clarity and unity is part of my charity work

 

[nicko31]

It'll be interesting to see whether the whole "it's Covid, not Brexit" defence manages to hang around if, once Covid recedes, EU nations come bouncing back while we're still stuck in a lorry park in Kent

The thing is Brexit is doing real structural damage, damaging opportunities for UK companies have been built up over decades, trashing opportunities for our kids and grand kids whilst also driving away foreign investment. We all know how the Brexit cheer leaders run away and the command in chief said f**k business. F**k was basically saying f**k Britain.

Any Brexiteer on here prepared to bet UK will grow faster than Germany for the next 3 years?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

The thing is Brexit is doing real structural damage, damaging opportunities for UK companies have been built up over decades, trashing opportunities for our kids and grand kids whilst also driving away foreign investment. We all know how the Brexit cheer leaders run away and the command in chief said f**k business. F**k was basically saying f**k Britain.

Any Brexiteer on here prepared to bet UK will grow faster than Germany for the next 3 years?

Who cares about Germany and the next thee years its a marathon not a sprint
regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Between you and me, there always has been.

It was just lost in amongst all the vacuous inane ramblings repeated by various Farage, Johnson and Cummings supporters on here over the last 4 years. Now the vast majority have either disappeared completely or are too embarrassed to post on here, you can find the pearls of wisdom that were there all along.

And no need for the thanks, you're welcome. I like to think that educating, informing and bringing clarity and unity is part of my charity work

nice edit
regards
DF

 

[Lever]

Who cares about Germany and the next thee years its a marathon not a sprint
regards
DF

... and none of us will ever see the benefits, but you will always 'know' that they are on the way....
That's perfect gaslighting Dumb Fool.....

 

[WATFORD zero]

... and none of us will ever see the benefits, but you will always 'know' that they are on the way....
That's perfect gaslighting Dumb Fool.....

To be fair to Ppf, I believe he has been seeing benefits for some number of years now.

But it's a bit like when Wyle E. Coyote looks the wrong way, everyone knows what is coming, except him. Classic comedy

 

[nicko31]

Who cares about Germany and the next thee years its a marathon not a sprint
regards
DF

You did vote remain didn’t you Ppf?

 

[Randy McNob]

To be fair to Ppf, I believe he has been seeing benefits for some number of years now.

But it's a bit like when Wyle E. Coyote looks the wrong way, everyone knows what is coming, except him. Classic comedy

The brexit benefits are not tangible, it's a feeling. It's the new word for Nationalism

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

 

[nicko31]

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We'll see tariffs deal or no deal...

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

We'll see tariffs deal or no deal...

Very much depends on what the deal entails.
Adding tariffs where none existed is not good.

 

[nicko31]

Growth stagnating to 2.1% in August, no time for a crappy trade deal with the EU. No pressure..

 

[Randy McNob]

so next year we will be similar to the former Yugslavia - Hooray...