[Politics] Brexit

[Fungus]

At some point in the uproar yesterday, my wife told me that Geoffrey Cox had effectively admitted the referendum wasn't mandatory, before blustering on. I can't find anything about this - did anyone else hear or see it, or did she imagine it?

 

[Bold Seagull]

I was wrong, I thought it would be Mouldy.

The whataboutism really doesn't hold any water. This is the Prime Minister for God's sake.

If you're a devout Tory, what have you got left?

 

[nicko31]

Indeed ... the current 'outrage' about the PM's inflammatory choice of words would be a bit more convincing if his critics hadn't contributed to the intemperate level of debate. See Dictator, coup, betrayal, decapitate (Boris), racist as well as drawing comparisons with the Nazis and of course the official Lib Dem Bollox to Brexit campaign. Hypocrisy award of the day must go to Labour MP Emma Hardy who was so appalled at Geoffrey Cox's comments re “when did you stop beating your wife”. She previously used exactly the same phrase herself ..

your question is akin to “when did you stop beating your wife”
I’ll not answer it.

— Emma Hardy MP (@EmmaHardyMP) June 29, 2016

https://twitter.com/EmmaHardyMP/status/748206051636420608?ref_src=tws rc^tfw

Must admit I thought that things went so low yesterday that no one on here would stoop to whataboutory quotes at a time like this, but I guess there's always one...

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I think you give him too much credit. I am sure he genuinely believes what he writes

No, he’s admitted to me face to face that he enjoys stirring it up.

 

[Gwylan]

What evidence leads you to that conclusion?

Personally I believe we would be almost exactly where we are today.

Totally agree. It's clear that there needed to be some sort of agreement that met the approval of the entire House; to do that required some compromise. May offered little in the way of compromise until it was too late but Johnson, it's clear, offers none at all and has actually driven long-standing Tories out of the party. I'm not sure why you think we'd be out

 

[Dick Swiveller]

ah OK 'just fishing', whatever

It's a variation on the joke I did on the Christmas Lights thread and both stolen from Phoenix Nights with Roy Walker but, whatever.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Hypothetical question NSCers and apologies if its been asked on here before.

But where would this country be today if Boris Johnson had succeeded David Cameron immediately instead of Mrs May?

I think out of Europe with a good deal for the UK, a strong pound and the economy moving forward.

(And obviously Sir Geoffrey Boycott would still be plain old Mr Boycott)

Out of interest, in what way do you think the deal that Johnson would have got, would have differed to the one that May put forward ?

 

[WATFORD zero]

I was wrong, I thought it would be Mouldy.

The whataboutism really doesn't hold any water. This is the Prime Minister for God's sake.

Indeed ... the current 'outrage' about the PM's inflammatory choice of words would be a bit more convincing if his critics hadn't contributed to the intemperate level of debate. See Dictator, coup, betrayal, decapitate (Boris), racist as well as drawing comparisons with the Nazis and of course the official Lib Dem Bollox to Brexit campaign. Hypocrisy award of the day must go to Labour MP Emma Hardy who was so appalled at Geoffrey Cox's comments re “when did you stop beating your wife”. She previously used exactly the same phrase herself ..

your question is akin to “when did you stop beating your wife”
I’ll not answer it.

— Emma Hardy MP (@EmmaHardyMP) June 29, 2016

https://twitter.com/EmmaHardyMP/status/748206051636420608?ref_src=tws rc^tfw

Must admit I thought that things went so low yesterday that no one on here would stoop to whataboutory quotes at a time like this, but I guess there's always one...

I wonder who the first NSC poster will be to back Johnson's diatribe last night

Sadly, I'm not as surprised as yourselves

 

[Bold Seagull]

Hypothetical question NSCers and apologies if its been asked on here before.

But where would this country be today if Boris Johnson had succeeded David Cameron immediately instead of Mrs May?

I think out of Europe with a good deal for the UK, a strong pound and the economy moving forward.

(And obviously Sir Geoffrey Boycott would still be plain old Mr Boycott)

He's already fired 24 Tory MPs, he's lost another half dozen or so to the opposition benches - he's hardly a unifying figure in his own party. If he'd succeeded Cameron, rather than just lose a bit of their majority, I genuinely think he'd have lost the 2017 election. If he had, you might be right, we might have left the EU but with a customs union and single market alignment, but I guess we'll never know.

 

[rippleman]

No recess for Tory party piss-up next week.

Boris has had his pants taken down and been given a good thrashing

 

[Questions]

How is Prometheus this morning?

People weren’t laughing with him .... they were laughing at him

 

[Stat Brother]

Each to their own. I reckon Johnson, in a few short weeks, has become the worst PM since Lord North who lost America.

I can sympathise the other day I lost my car keys.

Lord North might want to look under a tea towel, in the kitchen.

 

[nicko31]

No recess for Tory party piss-up next week.

Boris has had his pants taken down and been given a good thrashing

If the Tories has adopted a more conciliatory tone and give some sort of apology there might have been goodwill from the opposition, instead this where we are now.

 

[A1X]

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[A1X]

No recess for Tory party piss-up next week.

Boris has had his pants taken down and been given a good thrashing

After a chastening 11-0 defeat at the Supreme Court, you'd have hoped to minimise the damage on aggregate even if the tie was lost, but to then be 7-0 down at home too is really bad news

 

[Stat Brother]

Hypothetical question NSCers and apologies if its been asked on here before.

But where would this country be today if Boris Johnson had succeeded David Cameron immediately instead of Mrs May?

I think out of Europe with a good deal for the UK, a strong pound and the economy moving forward.

(And obviously Sir Geoffrey Boycott would still be plain old Mr Boycott)

You seem to be suggesting this absolute cluster**** is Terry May's fault.


Strange times indeed.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

I'm assuming everyone is in favour of honouring the memory of Jacques Chirac by leaving? It is what he wouldn't have wanted.

 

[A1X]

I'm assuming everyone is in favour of honouring the memory of Jacques Chirac by leaving? It is what he wouldn't have wanted.

Boris has already paid his tribute before he even died as yon Chirac loved a little bit of corruption.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

Boris has already paid his tribute before he even died as yon Chirac loved a little bit of corruption.

He was very much in the "wasn't he already dead?" category for me.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

No recess for Tory party piss-up next week.

Boris has had his pants taken down and been given a good thrashing

His own sister has spoken out, saying he’s under tremendous pressure from all the billions invested in shorting the pound with a No Deal!