[Politics] Brexit

[Igzilla]

I believe that parliament ie the government should be allowed to do their job without interference.

Which just shows you don't understand how our parliamentary democracy works.

 

[clapham_gull]

I believe that parliament ie the government should be allowed to do their job without interference.

They tried that in Germany.

 

[Chicken Run]

Everyone of these posters is a hero - bravo

Anyone with 3,000 plus posts has two much time on their hands , I mean this is just one thread, one can only imagine what the rest of the count looks like [emoji23]

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Whatever one thinks of Boris Johnson, I really do think this was rather pathetic behaviour by the Luxembourg PM and only goes to reinforce the views of those who voted leave.
I voted remain, by the way.

Boris is a man that’s spent 20 years lying and insulting the EU and when he’s been face to face with its leaders has looked out of place or in this case just run away rather than face another embarrassment.

It’s a terrible imagine for our PM who has told people to just believe a bit more and is seen as a man of the people to run away like he did yesterday.

I have no doubt the Luxembourg PM would have said the same things if Boris was standing there.

He is a coward, bullying and a liar who doesn’t care about Brexit, but has used it to become PM.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I believe that parliament ie the government should be allowed to do their job without interference.

Government is accountable to Parliament. Parliament is sovereign in this country.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Gina Miller is an impressive woman, we need more Gina Millers

She's a bitter Women who can afford to try and disrupt the Brexit process ,fits in well with the undemocratic loons on here I'm afraid
Regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Government is accountable to Parliament. Parliament is sovereign in this country.

And are elected by the people they choose to ignore
Regards
DF

 

[nicko31]

This funny, 2 tales from yesterday....

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9942208/boris-johnson-luxembourg-rude-nauseating/

https://www.thesun.ie/news/4556294/...ime-minister-who-empty-chaired-boris-johnson/

The English are being played again by Murdoch, but they don't learn...

 

[nicko31]

And are elected by the people they choose to ignore
Regards
DF

They are representing a view that is more or less 50/50, there lies the problem. No clear mandate to leave...

 

[pb21]

If the NSC Brexit thread is anything to go by it’s no wonder UK productivity is low, don’t yo people have work to be getting on with? [emoji23]

I don’t recall saying paid work?

Edit quite impressed with your Brexit thread post count, nearly 2,500 posts [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Easy 10]

Lord Keen starts to give "clear examples" of where the government has prorogued Parliament for political reasons in the past - and sometimes for an extended period of time than usual.

He mentions the prorogation of Parliament in 1914, at the outbreak of the World War One.

"That clearly was not for the purpose of the King's Speech," he says.

He adds: "Parliament was prorogued for 87 days in 1930 during the onset of the Great Depression."

Lord Keen gives another example of 1948, when Parliament was prorogued to force a bill to be passed.

"This last example was clearly for a party political purpose," he says. "It was a naked political reason."

So apparently, following a previously set precedent is the right thing to do regardless ?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Government is accountable to Parliament. Parliament is sovereign in this country.

Or as they said at the Supreme Court this morning, government is the junior partner in our democracy, parliament is the senior partner.

 

[pb21]

So apparently, following a previously set precedent is the right thing to do regardless ?

Presumably, if there was a similar court case in 1914/1930/1948 that concluded it was just, then legally it is OK, and whether it is a right thing is a moot point.

 

[Chicken Run]

??

 

[Murray 17]

Anyone with 3,000 plus posts has two much time on their hands , I mean this is just one thread, one can only imagine what the rest of the count looks like [emoji23]

I think this is a serious point.

If you average each post as taking 4-5 minutes to construct and write, those people who have 3000+ posts have spent over 10 days of their lives arguing with people who aren't for turning. Just think of what you could have done instead, in 250 hours!

 

[BLOCK F]

Boris is a man that’s spent 20 years lying and insulting the EU and when he’s been face to face with its leaders has looked out of place or in this case just run away rather than face another embarrassment.

It’s a terrible imagine for our PM who has told people to just believe a bit more and is seen as a man of the people to run away like he did yesterday.

I have no doubt the Luxembourg PM would have said the same things if Boris was standing there.

He is a coward, bullying and a liar who doesn’t care about Brexit, but has used it to become PM.

I hold no brief for Mr. Johnson and I think he should have attended.
However, I am not a fan of the grandstanding by Bettel.That was my point and one that I have made in my subsequent posts.
By the way, I don't think he is PM material, but I truly struggle to identify many/any politicians of any political persuasion with the requisite qualities to lead the country.
I am no avid politico, so maybe others have some suggestions.

 

[Easy 10]

Presumably, if there was a similar court case in 1914/1930/1948 that concluded it was just, then legally it is OK, and whether it is a right thing is a moot point.

I doubt if it was legally challenged / tested back then.

 

[Chicken Run]

I think this is a serious point.

If you average each post as taking 4-5 minutes to construct and write, those people who have 3000+ posts have spent over 10 days of their lives arguing with people who aren't for turning. Just think of what you could have done instead, in 250 hours!

I bet when Thunderbolt was leading up to to retirement she didn’t plan to spend ten WHOLE days of her retirement posting on a football forum site specifically on one subject [emoji23]

 

[beorhthelm]

Presumably, if there was a similar court case in 1914/1930/1948 that concluded it was just, then legally it is OK, and whether it is a right thing is a moot point.

they weren't challenged. thats the point of highlighting them, they establish a precedent that can be argued is accepted practice. the court needs to weigh that against the other arguments.

 

[Easy 10]

I hold no brief for Mr. Johnson and I think he should have attended.
However, I am not a fan of the grandstanding by Bettel.That was my point and one that I have made in my subsequent posts.
By the way, I don't think he is PM material, but I truly struggle to identify many/any politicians of any political persuasion with the requisite qualities to lead the country.
I am no avid politico, so maybe others have some suggestions.

We're not exactly blessed with choice in this regard, but I was hoping (beyond hope) that Rory Stewart would win the Tory leadership camnpaign. Not an ideal candidate by any means, but he does at least come across as a serious politician with values and beliefs, rather than the lying, blustering, self-regarding, racist, clueless bluffing blundering buffoon we've ended up with.