Boris isn’t even turning up for negotiations. He wants a No Deal. Far less work for him and he can blame the inevitable collapse of the U.K. economy on those pesky remainers.
He’s a goon.
You’re a goon.
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- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Boris isn’t even turning up for negotiations. He wants a No Deal. Far less work for him and he can blame the inevitable collapse of the U.K. economy on those pesky remainers.
He’s a goon.
You’re a goon.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It's a full moon today and Friday 13th. It explains a lot.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Leo Varadkar disagrees with you and thinks Boris is genuinely looking for a deal but what does he know ..
https://www.rte.ie/news/2019/0913/1075664-taoiseach-says-gap-on-brexit-deal-wide/
Nothing in the news?
Boris Johnson to hold Brexit talks with EU's Jean-Claude Juncker
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-to-hold-brexit-talks-with-eus-jean-claude-juncker-11808339
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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Thanks for the heads up, Daft Whatever. What's the first thing I learn from your handy guide? Well, we were planning to take the family dog on a trip to see Belgian friends in January next year. I find out we can't. We've left it too late. Welcome to our brave new Brexit world. It's what the enthusiasts on here are gagging for it seems.
Apologies, I wasn't up to date with today's news, clearly. Up until today what I'd said was true.
Still bizarre - if he does want a deal - to get rid of almost all of the negotiating team though, innit?
pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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Regarding Varadkar:
If Johnson goes to Varadkar and says:
"I want a deal that involves us leaving without the backstop"
But offers nothing else, it is fair to say he wants a deal, but is it fair to say he is trying to get a deal? Does he just want to be seen to be trying?
BensGrandad
New member
That is why we rely on impartial advice from people like you, the experts, but that wont happen because you have an agenda.
Granny on the wing
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- Sep 7, 2019
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Pretty well summed up , seen reports the EU might go for No Deal anyway as they are fed up with whats going on in the House of Commons .
Correct. Honestly, I reckon he wasn't going to bother with looking for a deal, not when no deal was good enough to keep him in power by simply shutting down parliamentary scrutiny like a cowardly, bullying dictator. Now though, the goalposts have moved - his authoritarian lying hasn't worked so he needs a deal or he's out the door as the worst PM in living memory. That explains him scrabbling around looking for a deal, any deal that is noticably different from May's WA.
It would serve him right if the EU offered him a deal that HAD to be signed by October 17th or it expires. But seeing as the EU is a lot more democratic and trustworthy than Boris Johnson, they wouldn't do that to him.
I think this is very likely to be the case no matter what happens from this point onwards.
Damned right I have an agenda. To remain in the EU. Someone has to have an agenda here, the UK is falling to bits.
Nothing in that article says that Johnson is actually 'genuinely looking for a deal'. Varadker says that Johnson 'says he wants a deal' - but that means nothing without making some effort to get one. After all, I'm acting in good faith when I say 'I want a million pounds' - doesn't mean I'm actively doing anything to get it.
Dave the OAP
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pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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This is the key bit.
If he is looking for a deal it has to be significantly different to May's WA.
Faridge and the Brexit Party have said that this WA is a betrayal and any amended WA (presumably the backstop element altered) would also be a betrayal.
On that basis you can expect Nige and his acolytes to not back down at the next GE, and considering it was this threat to the Tory party that led us into this position in the first place you would imagine Johnson/Cummings will be trying to avoid this.
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Leaving the EU and going on October 31st.
If you think I am getting dragged into an answer on that which you and 6 others will jump on and then we will all argue the toss over, you're wrong I have more important things to do.
A wish of death towards me is pretty high on the agenda, don't you think?
Maybe your tunnel vision is too narrow to see that, I would expect better from you. The way the club dealt with it was, I only state FACTS.
I have never ever lent on anyone, I don't do feeling sorry myself and never will as there is no point it gets you nowhere.
But I do principles/customer service instead.
Lawro you're being dramatic again and stirring everyone up, why have so little faith in the ability for British people to adapt to circumstance?
That again is a myth, it's for the country.
Ha! Pathetic response. You haven't got a clue.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
So Boris is going to talk about a deal over a working lunch (one, maybe two hours?) and sort it out when we've had over three years without being able to sort out anything?
He's already said he won't ask for an extension so how will he have time to agree a deal, and then get Parliament to vote on it?
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Michel Barnier: no grounds for reopening Brexit talks
In a private briefing with the European parliament’s leaders, the EU’s chief negotiator said Boris Johnson’s officials had yet to offer any “legally credible and workable” proposals to replace the Northern Irish backstop on which the two negotiating teams could build.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/12/michel-barnier-no-grounds-for-reopening-brexit-talks
But Johnson said that they were working hard on these negotiations. You don't think he could have been lying
Who could have seen this coming
I don't think there is a faceslap big enough
BensGrandad
New member
It was only 3 years wasted because of the unmovable remainer MPs and had they followed their constituents vote in the referendum, rather than their own personal wishes, it would have been sorted long ago.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Wrong. Lewes was Remain and Maria Caulfield is a member of the ERG voting against Theresa May twice before finally voting for the third vote.
MPs are not delegates who have to vote for what their constituents voted for, as your own MP Sir Nicholas Soames proves. Your constituency was Remain, but Nicholas voted with the government each time.