[Politics] Brexit

[Bakero]

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The full results of that survey make for interesting reading. In fact 5% said they'd be happy if the party were destroyed, 6% would be happy with significa que economic damage and 2% would be happy if Corbz was PM

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.n...YouGov - Conservative members poll 190614.pdf

 

[Thunder Bolt]

So if my problem with words is a point of focus for you to attack me personally, well done.

You have not been attacked. Your post was attacked, not you. Don't play the victim.

 

[Grombleton]

Sorry, can you just unscramble that garble you just spouted? You said 350 million was a lie, then you denied it, now you are talking bollocks. We really do pay that amount into the EU, that was never an issue. Where it went and the lies told about it was the issue. Do you not understand that much?

Well...

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

It’s been claimed that we send £350 million a week to the EU. That misses out the rebate, and it doesn’t represent the total economic costs and benefits of EU membership to the UK.
£350 million is roughly what we would pay to the EU budget without the rebate. The UK actually paid closer to £250 million a week.
The UK Statistics Authority has said the EU membership fee figure of £19 billion a year, or £350 million a week, is "not an amount of money that the UK pays to the EU each year".
Since then, the new chair of the Authority described use of the figure by the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, as “a clear misuse of official statistics”.

The government then gets some of that money back, mainly through payments to farmers and for poorer areas of the country such as Wales and Cornwall.
In 2017, the UK's ‘public sector receipts’ are estimated to be £4 billion.
So overall we paid in £8.9 billion more than we got back.
The Treasury figures note payments the EU makes directly to the private sector, such as research grants. In 2015, these were worth an estimated £1.5 billion, so including them could reduce our net contribution further still.

I did, it seems you didn't. You're welcome.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The full results of that survey make for interesting reading. In fact 5% said they'd be happy if the party were destroyed, 6% would be happy with significa que economic damage and 2% would be happy if Corbz was PM

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.n...YouGov - Conservative members poll 190614.pdf

46% of Tory members would be happy with Farage as leader! Mind you, the owner of Yougov polls is a Tory donater. Despite it's official sounding name it is a private company.

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[Deleted member 22389]

46% of Tory members would be happy with Farage as leader! Mind you, the owner of Yougov polls is a Tory donater. Despite it's official sounding name it is a private company.

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Don't know how you have the energy to sit reading this rubbish. Who cares.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Don't know how you have the energy to sit reading this rubbish. Who cares.

You obviously do, to comment on it.

PS It doesn't take much energy to search the internet and, as someone who is suffering with chronic fatigue, I can explain how hovering a mouse, and using a keyboard doesn't use many calories.

 

[The Clamp]

Well...



I did, it seems you didn't. You're welcome.

Clunk. Owned.

 

[nicko31]

46% of Tory members would be happy with Farage as leader! Mind you, the owner of Yougov polls is a Tory donater. Despite it's official sounding name it is a private company.

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Well 59% of them voted for the snake oil salesman in the Euro elections, yeap I can believe it. Hats off to 3 decades of grooming by the right wing media, top work...

 

[Bakero]

Don't know how you have the energy to sit reading this rubbish. Who cares.

Yeah, who cares about the views of the people that will be choosing our next PM.

 

[CHAPPERS]

I see Boris and his team are lending Jeremy Hunt votes so that he faces him off in the last two, and not Gove.

How very democratic!

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/...to-the-final-two-and-ill-make-a-better-boris/

At the hustings held by the 1922 Committee of backbench Tory MPs this evening, the question wasn’t who was going to win but who should be sent to put Boris Johnson through his paces before he wins. Word is that Team Boris is lending about 15 votes to Jeremy Hunt, who he’d most like to go up against. Which isn’t much: Boris is understood to have over 150 supporters now – so he could lend 40 votes to Hunt if he wanted. But he is more likely to keep the number low so the vote-lending isn’t obvious.

 

[A1X]

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This lot are unhinged.

 

[beorhthelm]

I see Boris and his team are lending Jeremy Hunt votes so that he faces him off in the last two, and not Gove.

i remember a parliamentary party did something similar, had unintended results.

 

[nicko31]

i remember a parliamentary party did something similar, had unintended results.

When it comes to a face off with the members Hunt probably has the best chance. Rory may have a wide appeal in the country but that means nothing...

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

At least 1 potential leader bites the dust after 6pm.

Just get on with it !

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

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Where is the column for *pension spending power being devalued* ?

 

[ManOfSussex]

When it comes to a face off with the members Hunt probably has the best chance. Rory may have a wide appeal in the country but that means nothing...

Hunt wouldn't get as personal and play dirty tricks like Gove would and Johnson would beat him with ease amongst the members, without any controversies. For Hunt to actually win the leadership contest it'd be as big a shock, to use a footballing comparison of Hunt v Johnson, as when the old boys of their respective schools played the 1881 FA Cup Final at The Oval and Old Carthusians ended up winning 3-0 against Old Etonians.

 

[W.C.]

Don't know how you have the energy to sit reading this rubbish. Who cares.

This post just about sums you up. Continual willful ignorance.

 

[Lever]

This post just about sums you up. Continual willful ignorance.

Quote Originally Posted by Lever View Post
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-h...use-of-brexit/

'UK households £600 worse off because of Brexit
The National Institute for Economic and Social Research said the economic slowdown in the UK is directly attributable to the vote to leave the European Union......'

read on....

Oh.... they are independent 'experts' in their field so are probably just scaremongering.


Portslade Gull: Yep scaremongering you've got it.

This is wilful ignorance

 

[nicko31]

Quote Originally Posted by Lever View Post
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-h...use-of-brexit/

'UK households £600 worse off because of Brexit
The National Institute for Economic and Social Research said the economic slowdown in the UK is directly attributable to the vote to leave the European Union......'

read on....

Oh.... they are independent 'experts' in their field so are probably just scaremongering.


Portslade Gull: Yep scaremongering you've got it.

This is wilful ignorance

GBP / USD now 1.25 today, Brits purchasing power gets eroded further, its hardly surprising. So much damage for ordinary folk....

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

https://twitter.com/bethrigby/status/1140983768175513601?s=21

Will he be caught out by his lies before the final vote?