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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,099


Grombleton

Surrounded by <div>s
Dec 31, 2011
7,356
Best solution now is:

We leave on 29th with no deal.
Theresa My resigns.
A Brexiteer is elected by the Tory party.
A Brexiteer calls a general election
A Brexiteer wins a general election with an increased majority
A strong Brexit backing cabinet get on and make this country great again.

However what I think will happen (which has always been my prediction) is on March 28th/29th the EU will make another "final" concession which will be enough for the ERG and DUP to back the agreement (on the basis that May resigns before end of June), it will then get through. May will see it through until it is final, about May/June time and then resign. A Brexiteer will then be elected, call a general election and off we go as above.....

Call this post out if neither happen.

That reminds me, i've run out of hallucinogens...
 




Fungus

Well-known member
NSC Patron
May 21, 2004
7,154
Truro
Best solution now is:

We leave on 29th with no deal.
Theresa My resigns.
A Brexiteer is elected by the Tory party.
A Brexiteer calls a general election
A Brexiteer wins a general election with an increased majority
A strong Brexit backing cabinet get on and make this country great again.

However what I think will happen (which has always been my prediction) is on March 28th/29th the EU will make another "final" concession which will be enough for the ERG and DUP to back the agreement (on the basis that May resigns before end of June), it will then get through. May will see it through until it is final, about May/June time and then resign. A Brexiteer will then be elected, call a general election and off we go as above.....

Call this post out if neither happen.

Define "best".
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,570
Gods country fortnightly


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
Best solution now is:

We leave on 29th with no deal.
Theresa My resigns.
A Brexiteer is elected by the Tory party.
A Brexiteer calls a general election
A Brexiteer wins a general election with an increased majority
A strong Brexit backing cabinet get on and make this country great again.

However what I think will happen (which has always been my prediction) is on March 28th/29th the EU will make another "final" concession which will be enough for the ERG and DUP to back the agreement (on the basis that May resigns before end of June), it will then get through. May will see it through until it is final, about May/June time and then resign. A Brexiteer will then be elected, call a general election and off we go as above.....

Call this post out if neither happen.

Clever, I like your thinking. After all that has happened the EU won't be expecting one final, futile, gesture of stupidity.
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
58,789
hassocks
Best solution now is:

We leave on 29th with no deal.
Theresa My resigns.
A Brexiteer is elected by the Tory party.
A Brexiteer calls a general election
A Brexiteer wins a general election with an increased majority
A strong Brexit backing cabinet get on and make this country great again.

However what I think will happen (which has always been my prediction) is on March 28th/29th the EU will make another "final" concession which will be enough for the ERG and DUP to back the agreement (on the basis that May resigns before end of June), it will then get through. May will see it through until it is final, about May/June time and then resign. A Brexiteer will then be elected, call a general election and off we go as above.....

Call this post out if neither happen.

Problem is, won’t the Brexiteer run away when they are in power?
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,570
Gods country fortnightly
Best solution now is:

We leave on 29th with no deal.
Theresa My resigns.
A Brexiteer is elected by the Tory party.
A Brexiteer calls a general election
A Brexiteer wins a general election with an increased majority
A strong Brexit backing cabinet get on and make this country great again.

However what I think will happen (which has always been my prediction) is on March 28th/29th the EU will make another "final" concession which will be enough for the ERG and DUP to back the agreement (on the basis that May resigns before end of June), it will then get through. May will see it through until it is final, about May/June time and then resign. A Brexiteer will then be elected, call a general election and off we go as above.....

Call this post out if neither happen.

-----------ditto--------------

The public need to take some of the blame, so many ill informed people, many of whom are still in denial.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,680
The Fatherland








studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,225
On the Border
Best solution now is:

We leave on 29th with no deal.
Theresa My resigns.
A Brexiteer is elected by the Tory party.
A Brexiteer calls a general election
A Brexiteer wins a general election with an increased majority
A strong Brexit backing cabinet get on and make this country great again.

However what I think will happen (which has always been my prediction) is on March 28th/29th the EU will make another "final" concession which will be enough for the ERG and DUP to back the agreement (on the basis that May resigns before end of June), it will then get through. May will see it through until it is final, about May/June time and then resign. A Brexiteer will then be elected, call a general election and off we go as above.....

Call this post out if neither happen.

Fixed-term Parliament Act 2011 :facepalm:
 






Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,721
Eastbourne
Is it so ridiculous?

The EU need us more than we need them.
It will be the easiest deal in the world to negotiate

etc etc etc

Brexit was and is a fantasy, and the people have been conned.

Brexit is a disaster because all along, we have been led by a parliament which was extremely pro-remain. In my opinion, policies should have been decided by the major parties prior to the election, this would have immeasurably helped. MP's have been trying to weasel their way from carrying out their democratic duty and you've got to give it to them, they have so far made a huge mess of the process, one so big that even people such as myself can't help wishing it had never happened.
Why thank you.

I was going to say did you want me to explain it to you, but I guess I would be wasting my time and apperetifs and canapés are at 7 :wave:

Silly. Again. Nevermind.

Untrue. It seems that a number in the Labour group now believe in these unicorns. Jeremy is off to Brussels tomorrow to see them for himself it seems.

Lol.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Don't expect much other than to confirm " Brexit means Brexit " and that she will be doing everything in her power to get us over the cliff edge before the end of June despite all common sense and logic.
She'll be very clear, I reckon.
 






nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,570
Gods country fortnightly
Expectation versus reality...


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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,063
Faversham
Who has been conned and how exactly? No rhetoric, just the Fax.

The leavers comprise of distinct goups who have different goals and they were conned into thinking they all could get what they want - all of them, all differently. Brexit can't be done in a way that keeps the Ulsterfolk, the hard borderers and the free traders all happy. Unless they unite they will ensure every plan is voted down. As soon as you move away from the hard brexit contingent, you encounter folk who either want the EU to give us all EU membership benefits at no cost, and soft Brexiters prepared to sacrifice some of our supreme Dalek powers over all things in exchange for deals (anathema to most Brexiters, who do not want Frogs telling is to eat cuboid oranges, etc). Absolute freedom and control over all our things is incompatible with a functioning arrangement - and that's before we start building a wall between Ulster and Eire.

In other words, even the reasonable Brexiters are fantasists. It will never happen.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,063
Faversham
Brexit is a disaster because all along, we have been led by a parliament which was extremely pro-remain. .

:laugh:

Parliament? So Brexit has been sabotaged by parliament?

The reason that the Albion aren't top of the PL and looking forward to a victorious campaign in the Champion's League next season is because the club is run by a load of small minded wimps with no vision, passion, ambition or knowhow. They actually prefer being in the championship.

Utter bollocks.

Theresa May and her government tried to do the impossible - because it is impossible. She could have said bollocks to negociation, we leave with a hard border, passports and visas to travel between Coshquin and Bridge End, between Dover and Calais, between Luton and Faro....(can you imagine Italian lorry drivers having to get a visa to export tomatoes to the UK; but I digress)? Anyway. She could have done that, or she could have sought a deal. Which she did. Unfortunately there is no clear view in parliament what a deal looks like. Not because the majority are remainers, but because they all have a different picture of what a unicorn looks like (and indeed, some don't believe in unicorns but oddly these are in a minority). Boris, Davies and the arse Mogg have not articulated what a deal should look like, let alone got agreement for their 'vision'. But they are not opposed to Brexit. I am surprised you didn't know that.
 




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