[Politics] Brexit

[ManOfSussex]

They hate it. I had to put Pastafarian on ignore because he was quoting and mentioning me so much every time I logged on it was notification after notification. 30 in one day once. I read a couple of his posts about 6 months later as he kept commenting on a debate I was having. Guess what? He was quoting me again.
Genuinely strange people.

After that birthday business, I really don't blame you. He was also stating in some of his replies to you that he knew you had him on ignore and you wouldn't be reading them - I could almost sense the frustration and rejection he was feeling. It was almost as if he genuinely missed you. As I say, I think it's almost cruel to do it. [MENTION=1200]Harry Wilson's tackle[/MENTION] 's legendary ignore list causes such consternation to those on it for example. It's all very strange as you say.

Still, that very extensive 'who's who' list of [MENTION=59]Mental Lental[/MENTION] did make me laugh out loud.

 

[The Clamp]

After that birthday business, I really don't blame you. He was also stating in some of his replies to you that he knew you had him on ignore and you wouldn't be reading them - I could almost sense the frustration and rejection he was feeling. It was almost as if he genuinely missed you. As I say, I think it's almost cruel to do it. [MENTION=1200]Harry Wilson's tackle[/MENTION] 's legendary ignore list causes such consternation to those on it for example. It's all very strange as you say.

Still, that very extensive 'who's who' list of [MENTION=59]Mental Lental[/MENTION] did make me laugh out loud.

Haha! Yes, very funny.!
Oh god yes, all that weird birthday stuff. He is an odd bag of cabbage.
I suppose these characters are what make NSC what it is but that was just plain weird.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

There is no 2nd referendum...

As has been explained equally as much we have already had a democratic people's vote.

Theresa May is having another vote on Monday. Is that undemocratic too, when she was defeated last week? She can't keep on having votes when she lost.

We don't need to go through another public vote, any Act of Parliament giving effect to a referendum result could be reversed by a subsequent Act of Parliament.

It is clear from the appointment of Theresa May (remainer) to the subsequent snap GE which was a cluster **** for the Tories this whole affair has been sabotaged form start to finish.

The illegality of the referendum in 2016 should be enough to render it invalid, but this government, and Theresa May in particular, when she was at the Home Office, have blocked investigations into Aaron Banks, and sat on the police making arrests.

It is nothing less than a right wing coup, imo.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

After that birthday business, I really don't blame you. He was also stating in some of his replies to you that he knew you had him on ignore and you wouldn't be reading them - I could almost sense the frustration and rejection he was feeling. It was almost as if he genuinely missed you. As I say, I think it's almost cruel to do it. [MENTION=1200]Harry Wilson's tackle[/MENTION] 's legendary ignore list causes such consternation to those on it for example. It's all very strange as you say.

Still, that very extensive 'who's who' list of [MENTION=59]Mental Lental[/MENTION] did make me laugh out loud.

If you 'mention' me again I'll put you on ignore.

(Not really )

I have been told by some of my chums on NSC that some of the people on my list (and there are only around 12 people) sometimes seem to fulminate about it, as you mention above. Futile. I find it strangely soothing

For anyone thinking of making their own little list and feel awkward about it (I have seen some of the scorn posts from those who are the NSC equivalent of the big lads in the school playground - bored by my repetition but nevertheless sufficiently motivated to comment about my lack of manliness) all I can say is this. You wouldn't read The Sun (1980s version - 'dole scum; totty; pikey; darky'), would you? If The Sun was commenting about your 'snowflake' attitudes, you still wouldn't read it, would you? Who cares what people you think are tiresome are saying about you?

 

[melias shoes]

I did the first time you asked the exact same question an hour ago here

(although, if it keeps you happy, I could add that not only do you not understand what you want, you don't understand how it would happen and you don't understand any of the implications, least of all how it would effect you - better ?)

Well swerved.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Theresa May is having another vote on Monday. Is that undemocratic too, when she was defeated last week? She can't keep on having votes when she lost.

What are the chances that ‘Plan B’ is 99% the same as ‘Plan A’? (The 1% difference being the name obviously).

 

[ManOfSussex]

If you 'mention' me again I'll put you on ignore.

(Not really )

I have been told by some of my chums on NSC that some of the people on my list (and there are only around 12 people) sometimes seem to fulminate about it, as you mention above. Futile. I find it strangely soothing

For anyone thinking of making their own little list and feel awkward about it (I have seen some of the scorn posts from those who are the NSC equivalent of the big lads in the school playground - bored by my repetition but nevertheless sufficiently motivated to comment about my lack of manliness) all I can say is this. You wouldn't read The Sun (1980s version - 'dole scum; totty; pikey; darky'), would you? If The Sun was commenting about your 'snowflake' attitudes, you still wouldn't read it, would you? Who cares what people you think are tiresome are saying about you?

Read post #71760 on this thread if you haven't already. You're a part-timer in the collecting usernames to put on you ignore list compared to that - I genuinely laughed out loud - it's a who's who.

 

[Hampster Gull]

What are the chances that ‘Plan B’ is 99% the same as ‘Plan A’? (The 1% difference being the name obviously).

She really is a Maybot if she brings that back. Will not pass. Time for our sovereign parliament to take back control from our worst ever government, buy us time by requesting very nicely to the EU that we haven’t managed the process very well (understatement of the century) and really need more time, then regroup around getting consensus in Parliament on what is the right relationship that we can go and discuss with our peers in Europe.

Could we have negotiated all of this any worse? I am struggling to see how we could have, and it’s the people of the U.K. that are suffering

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Theresa May is having another vote on Monday.

She's not but I get your point. No, the May plan should not be voted on again ... another plan or no deal should be the options.

 

[Hampster Gull]

If you 'mention' me again I'll put you on ignore.

(Not really )

I have been told by some of my chums on NSC that some of the people on my list (and there are only around 12 people) sometimes seem to fulminate about it, as you mention above. Futile. I find it strangely soothing

For anyone thinking of making their own little list and feel awkward about it (I have seen some of the scorn posts from those who are the NSC equivalent of the big lads in the school playground - bored by my repetition but nevertheless sufficiently motivated to comment about my lack of manliness) all I can say is this. You wouldn't read The Sun (1980s version - 'dole scum; totty; pikey; darky'), would you? If The Sun was commenting about your 'snowflake' attitudes, you still wouldn't read it, would you? Who cares what people you think are tiresome are saying about you?

it does fell like that at times

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

We don't need to go through another public vote, any Act of Parliament giving effect to a referendum result could be reversed by a subsequent Act of Parliament.

It is clear from the appointment of Theresa May (remainer) to the subsequent snap GE which was a cluster **** for the Tories this whole affair has been sabotaged form start to finish.

Do you seriously think May has sabotaged Brexit? She may well have botched the exercise, but I don't think for a second it was deliberate. There is still a chance we will stumble into a no deal Brexit (albeit small); no remainer wants that.

My take has always been that Brexit is impossible. The only Brexit that will satisfy the most noisy of its advocates is a no deal Brexit. Since nobody else wants this madness, and nobody can describe a Brexit that is feasible (we have movement of people or not, the Irish border which MUST be hard for us to manage our borders, free trade versus tariffs, issues all of which have strong and divided advocates who will not accept compromise), there can be only one likely outcome: No Brexit. The interesting thing will be to see if or when the blinkered May realises this, and whether the EU are prepared to cut us a bit of slack while we stumble through a general election or a tory leadership challenge, neither of which are likely to change anything - May will win.

I would be interested to see the advocates of Brexit on here debate how they think Brexit should look like. Can someone set up a poll that looks like this:

Are you in favour of Brexit (Y/N)

If you answered Y, assuming that Brexit will go ahead is your red line:

We must have a controlled (hard) border between mainland Britain and the EU Y/N
We must have a controlled (hard) border between NI and Eire Y/N
We must have NO controlled (hard) border between NI and Eire Y/N
We must have a free trade deal with the EU Y/N

If you answered No, assuming that Brexit will nevertheless go ahead is your red line:

We must have free movement of people between mainland Britain and the EU Y/N
We must have free movement of people between NI and Eire Y/N
We must have customs union with the EU Y/N

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Read post #71760 on this thread if you haven't already. You're a part-timer in the collecting usernames to put on you ignore list compared to that - I genuinely laughed out loud - it's a who's who.

Just did - most on it post too infrequently for me to bother about but almost my entire ignore list of 14 is in his - very amusing. In addition I have Ernest, the fake socialist troll and bully on my list.

 

[pastafarian]

Oh they're absolutely thick as mince. I gave up round about 3 months after the referendum result. I went through a stage of calling them a variety of names before finally deciding to give up and just ignore them.

Every last one of them........

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What a sad loser
Not a drop of petulant, oversensitive, safe space echo chamber snowflakery at my end.

I would love to see a similar screen shot of HW’sT ignore list, can somone ask him to post it up for me?

Ask [MENTION=1200]Harry Wilson's tackle[/MENTION] yourself, he presses view post and reads the posts he is pretending to ignore anyway,
Don’t expect an answer though whilst he is ignoring you, unless he enters clown mode.

They hate it. I had to put Pastafarian on ignore .

Think you will find we think its funny as it simply means you are fed up with seeing you are wrong and incapable of debating.
You didn’t ignore me though, you kept reading my posts and even replied to some of them whilst pretending you were ignoring me. Which is sort of the opposite of ignore- and obviously a bit daft if you are pretending to ignore someone.

 

[cunning fergus]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-46922989

Another cost to the average man on the street thanks to the Leave vote. Well done.

As a general principle, being in the EU does not save anyone, not least the man in the street money. Sure you can point to the mobile roaming fee, but business just having to review the tsunami of legislation coming out of Brussels, in addition to national legislation will come at a cost of processing that the business passes on to the consumer. This is a fact.

It’s also far easier for the big boys to manage with their resources than it is for smaller, leaner new competitors which is why global multinationals with their influence have a perpetual hard-on for the EU project.

Anyway, the key question therefore is, whether or not the legislation is effective and meaningful. This is easier to prove on some legislation than others, in finance let’s take the recent Mortgage Credit Directive, largely considered to be a disaster for the poorest people who are locked into into mortgages that are not competitive.

https://www.mortgagestrategy.co.uk/...prisoners-hit-as-fca-reveals-mcd-final-rules/

There is no defending the inflexibility of the EU here, for credible reasons of making sure banks do not overload themselves with debt they have ignored nuance, and this is royally stuffing 150k mortgages now, another 300k in future if there is no change.

Then there is legislation that is nothing short of political interference which firms have to adopt but don’t change shit.

https://www.lovemoney.com/news/67983/eu-gender-directive-ruling-car-insurance-men-pay-more-women

When this happens, the reality is we all pay more, so well done for trying to lock us in for more!

 

[Stat Brother]

Read post #71760 on this thread if you haven't already. You're a part-timer in the collecting usernames to put on you ignore list compared to that - I genuinely laughed out loud - it's a who's who.

FFS what's a fella got to do?

 

[pastafarian]

Pasta is the same . Like you, rarely gives his own opinion just trawls this thread trolling people and making snarky comments..

I don’t need to give opinion when facts will suffice, especially when countering your opinion which is usually wrong anyway. eg as in just recently, with your wrong opinion that directly applicable legislation from the EU was a load of untrue ballocks.

 

[Mental Lental]

Just to be clear, I didn’t put all those guys on the ignore list just for disagreeing with me. I did so because they were DEMONSTRABLY thick. The main criteria for getting on my list is advocating No Deal and illiteracy. There are some leavers on here that I don’t ignore because they can actually demonstrate some real critical thinking skills (Gwylan, Beorthelem) and aren’t just poster boys and girls for the Dunning/Kruger effect.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Think you will find we think its funny as it simply means you are fed up with seeing you are wrong and incapable of debating.
You didn’t ignore me though, you kept reading my posts and even replied to some of them whilst pretending you were ignoring me. Which is sort of the opposite of ignore- and obviously a bit daft if you are pretending to ignore someone.

Are you suggesting Nibble is a liar ? How very dare you !!!!!!

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Just to be clear, I didn’t put all those guys on the ignore list just for disagreeing with me. I did so because they were DEMONSTRABLY thick. The main criteria for getting on my list is advocating No Deal and illiteracy. There are some leavers on here that I don’t ignore because they can actually demonstrate some real critical thinking skills (Gwylan, Beorthelem) and aren’t just poster boys and girls for the Dunning/Kruger effect.

So you did read my post ! Glad we cleared that up.

 

[Two Professors]

Just to be clear, I didn’t put all those guys on the ignore list just for disagreeing with me. I did so because they were DEMONSTRABLY thick. The main criteria for getting on my list is advocating No Deal and illiteracy. There are some leavers on here that I don’t ignore because they can actually demonstrate some real critical thinking skills (Gwylan, Beorthelem) and aren’t just poster boys and girls for the Dunning/Kruger effect.

Glad I'm on your list you sad,pathetic loner.Call us thick,and then spell a regular poster's name wrong,and an old name for BRIGHTON at that?Troll.