Sadly, following some of the unwarranted abuse he received whilst carrying out his mod duties he’s decided to ditch NSC.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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Sadly, following some of the unwarranted abuse he received whilst carrying out his mod duties he’s decided to ditch NSC.
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We shouldn't have sold mini to the BMW group for starters. That's how little faith and support our government's showed towards manufacturing over the years. Saying that the Italians sold out to the Germans too. Letting go of any manufacturing to another country is just plain crazy.
I'm hoping some bans were handed out .... although I know you can't say.
Agree. I understand Italy is making a come back. They make a lot of car components these days.
Dave the OAP
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Which says a lot about the current bunch of people who infest this place to bore everyone silly with their myopic views.
Just reading through here they all come up to the surface from their deep ponds.
Did you get a ban for abusing [MENTION=33848]The Clamp[/MENTION]?
Telling him he was a liar you mean ? Telling the truth isn't abusing - he's very quick to report people so I'm sure he'll have reported mine if he felt I had abused him. And you perfectly well we're not allowed to discuss any infractions or bans I may or may not have had.
Besides, your posts towards 2 Profs have hardly been nice or adult.
nicko31
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Unfortunately, its not just the government when it comes to manufacturing its the whole British approach to investment to Engineering
That said motor manufacturing under foreign ownership is a modern day success story for UK industry, our local BMW plant in Oxford has surpassed all expectations.
In total 2016, some 1.7m UK made cars were shipped with 56% going to the EU
Still seems this industry that employs some 1m people is worth sacrificing for Brexit ideology though
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
When's he introducing that then?
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
If you say so pasta. I really hope they have as well though. The sooner this pack of cards comes crashing down, the better.
According to the Sunday Times it's being written now and he hopes to have it ready for the next round of EU discussions. Allegedly May isn't happy but given she's shown eff all leadership it's good to see ministers such as Javid and Gove actually getting to grips with their departments and ploughing ahead regardless.
You turned your back on [MENTION=33848]The Clamp[/MENTION] when he was called out quite rightly as a liar, no more 'thumbs up' or 'virtual high fives' from you, you ignored him entirely.
Receiving a few justified digs from an adversary and not a word of support from a supposed forum buddy says it all really, you now offering up [MENTION=33848]The Clamp[/MENTION] for yet another deserved kicking in a failed attempt to make a point against [MENTION=1365]Westdene Seagull[/MENTION] shows what I have always said, you are the ultimate 'me me me me ' poster, if I was [MENTION=33848]The Clamp[/MENTION] I would be thinking 'who needs enemies when I have got friends like him' .............................
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Yes, it's not being introduced then, is it. It's merely a proposal and as the cabinet is still split on the idea and can't agree, hope of having it ready by the next round of discussions in October is about all he does have. The immigration white paper was supposed to be published last summer. Additionally according to The Times, The EU will fire down the googly of free movement again onto the negotiating table in October just before or at or around the time of the party conferences.
'Hopes to have it ready' - you've summed Brexit up quite well there.
This a pretty low and shit stirring post. Its probably best I leave it here.
You really have absolutely no idea about the role of Parliament do you? You talk about 'long-established democratic process' and then complain when Parliament attempts to do its job. The role of Parliament is to implement legislation that is in the long-term best interests of the UK. It is not to implement the result of referendum. I'm assuming you still wish to stand by your admiration for our 'long established democratic process', or are you in fact in favour of forcing through legislation that goes against the wishes of a significant number of people in this country?
UK Governments are elected by the people to propose legislation. They are here today, gone tomorrow affairs, often elected by a minority of the people. Parliament is there to ensure that all Acts are held up to proper scrutiny. Perhaps, after all, you are not an admirer of our long-established democratic process and would rather see a single house of representative force through legislation. This is not the basis upon which UK sovereignty has worked, nor in my opinion, as a proud Brit and Englishman, should work. By all means, reform the upper house, but remember its role as one of the 3 checks and balances within Parliament.
I'm sure you'll come back and tell me that you knew all this, in which case that's fine. It just means you have no respect for our 'long established democratic process.'
Pretty pink fairy
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Grizzlers in damage limitation spin now I see , wonderful scenes
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I apologised to him via PM for my part in that, as I realise I did go over the top. Sadly, he probably hasn't picked it up - or at least hasn't responded. Therefore, please pass it on if you are still in touch with him.
For all of that, I do feel he's being a bit of a snowflake if he's decided to bin off NSC just because of that one thread, where incidentally, he didn't help himself.
Yes, it is. Parliament took a democratic decision to have the referendum, that is to leave the choice of leaving or staying to the British electorate. By deciding to have a referendum, that is exactly what they are legitimately doing - allowing the public to decide.
Which we have. I realise a huge majority of Westminster politicians are opposed to leaving, but that is their problem; they voted for a referendum. And I refer you to the Prime Minister's speech, immediately before the referendum:
"So as you take this decision – whether to remain or leave – do think about the hopes and dreams of your children and grandchildren. They know their chances to work, to travel, to build the sort of open and successful society they want to live in, rests on this outcome.And remember: they can’t undo the decision we take.
If we vote out, that’s it. It is irreversible. We will leave Europe – for good
For the next two days, up and down the country…in homes, in pubs, in the staff room at work, on the train on the way home…the conversations will continue: in or out? But on Thursday, those conversations will stop.
There you have it - Parliament voted to let the British people decide. Have to admit, though, that Cameron's final sentence there was way off the mark!
Again, you misunderstand the role of Parliament. Parliament never signed up to handing over control of whether or how the UK might exit the EU, nor what it might mean if the UK were to stay within the EU. What David Cameron may have uttered has absolutely nothing to do with the role of Parliament. He's just one bloke, and Parliament is Sovereign. I find it extraordinary that so many people see to want to ride roughshod over our long-standing democratic process in pursuit of a dogma that is the strongly held belief of a minority of people in the UK. Parliament was originally established to ensure that a minority - the Monarch - could not enforce his or her rule over the majority. It still has that role today, and the whole of Parliament must now ensure that decisions are taken in the best interests of the UK. The referendum was a signal, never an instruction nor a guidebook as to how or whether the UK exited the EU.