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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,101


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Soubry getting all worked up and a remain Minister resigning because he can't accept his constituents or the countries democratic decision .. happy days.
 




Jan 30, 2008
31,981
It is 11 days until the 2 year anniversary of us voting to leave the EU.

We have now run out of time to implement any 'no deal' option for 29th March 2019.

We don't have any guaranteed extensions to membership beyond 29th March 2019.

We don't have an agreed starting position to enter into negotiations with the EU on Borders and Trade.

How do you think we should celebrate the 2nd birthday :smile:

the fact that we're still leaving is a cause for celebration
regards
DR
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
It is 11 days until the 2 year anniversary of us voting to leave the EU.

We have now run out of time to implement any 'no deal' option for 29th March 2019.

We don't have any guaranteed extensions to membership beyond 29th March 2019.

We don't have an agreed starting position to enter into negotiations with the EU on Borders and Trade.

How do you think we should celebrate the 2nd birthday :smile:

Bizarrely there are many, many MP's who seem to be very concerned about a no deal option especially if they chose to vote down the final agreement. Perhaps you could contact parliament and inform them of your view that no deal never was ... and isn't going to happen. :)
 




The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,218
West is BEST
Tory government trying to sideline Parliament. Talk about ignoring democracy. Tories are dead in the water now anyway, no point trying to appease Brexiteers by trying to change our constitution. That's what landed us in this mess to begin with.
 




The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,218
West is BEST
What an excellent article. Every remainer can identify themselves in this, but of course, they won't/can't. I feel sorry for the Worried Remainers, but ultimately they are the victims of the Professional Remainers, who generate and exacerbate their worries at every opportunity, not victims of Brexit. Sadly, they won't be able to see that either.

Doubtless there'll be one of their ilk along in a minute or two.........................


Doh! That's why people think your lot are a bit thick.

It's a poorly written insult piece. If I was in agreement with that trash journalism I'd be embarrassed.
 


BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,072
If people can tear themselves away from mud slinging for five minutes the Commons has just voted to reject Amendment 110 after a last ditch deal from the Government:

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Tweet says:

Deal is: Govt agrees the Commons will be able to direct Brexit negotiations if no deal by November 30 this year. A veto ceded to MPs on how it proceeds from then onwards. That's a BIG climb down.
 


Hamilton

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NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
Soubry getting all worked up and a remain Minister resigning because he can't accept his constituents or the countries democratic decision .. happy days.

MPs are there to work in the interests of their constituents. They are not elected just to do what their constituents say. Especially not where there is practical division.
 








Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
If people can tear themselves away from mud slinging for five minutes the Commons has just voted to reject Amendment 110 after a last ditch deal from the Government:

[tweet]1006558847572561920[/tweet]

Tweet says:

Deal is: Govt agrees the Commons will be able to direct Brexit negotiations if no deal by November 30 this year. A veto ceded to MPs on how it proceeds from then onwards. That's a BIG climb down.

Ant news on details of the Grieve amendment?
 












Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,841
Uffern
MPs are there to work in the interests of their constituents. They are not elected just to do what their constituents say. Especially not where there is practical division.

Indeed. That's been a long-standing principle of how MPs should behave.

As Burke so eloquently put it "When the leaders choose to make themselves bidders at an auction of popularity, their talents, in the construction of the state, will be of no service. They will become flatterers instead of legislators; the instruments, not the guides, of the people."
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
MPs are there to work in the interests of their constituents. They are not elected just to do what their constituents say. Especially not where there is practical division.

Parliament delegated the decision to the people by a huge majority. His constituents and the country delivered a verdict. He also stood on a manifesto to deliver the democratic will of the majority. If he wants to renage on these commitments fair enough. I'm sure his local party and his constituents will take his decisions into account at any forthcoming selection/elections.
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Parliament delegated the decision to the people by a huge majority. His constituents and the country delivered a verdict. He also stood on a manifesto to deliver the democratic will of the majority. If he wants to renage on these commitments fair enough. I'm sure his local party and his constituents will take his decisions into account at any forthcoming selection/elections.

Indeed: he might get some more votes.
 










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