[Politics] Brexit

[Pretty pink fairy]

Hmmmm. Maybe the EU should be the judge of this? What an arrogant fool.

That's priceless coming from you
regards
DR

 

[portslade seagull]

Why don't you start a new thread, its highly relevant to you, but nothing to do with Brexit

After all the dross you have added ?? Really

 

[WATFORD zero]

After all the dross you have added ?? Really

So how do you think the negotiations are going and what do you think will happen on the Ireland/NI border and trade deal over the next couple of weeks?

 

[beorhthelm]

“If you harm Britain, you harm all of Europe” says [MENTION=1785]david[/MENTION]DavisMP - as his central argument why EU27 will ultimately give us benign Brexit. Not all EU leaders would agree

it is quite amusing how pathetic the UK now sounds.

its true though isnt it? if we accept the worse case scenarios, if we left with no deal, tariffs imposed, trade disrupted and so on, that would have a significant effect on EU economies. theres no scenario were its negative for UK and not for EU, only a matter of degree. perhaps though Davis needs a new argument, as the EU know this already.

 

[pastafarian]

So how do you think the negotiations are going and what do you think will happen on the Ireland/NI border and trade deal over the next couple of weeks?

Don’t fret, an agreement will eventually be reached on NI. EU negotiations go to the wire so don’t be surprised if these do as well, its almost a given at some point in the future we will be watching news coverage of last minute mammoth talks going into the early hours, I can picture Kay Burley now camped outside some building somewhere with a pop up tent and a generator going in the background,
And a framework for future relationship and trade will be forthcoming too. Trade deal cant be finalised until after we have left anyway, but im sure you knew that right?

 

[GT49er]

“If you harm Britain, you harm all of Europe” says [MENTION=1785]david[/MENTION]DavisMP - as his central argument why EU27 will ultimately give us benign Brexit. Not all EU leaders would agree

it is quite amusing how pathetic the UK now sounds.

Yes, it takes a remainer to
a). think his/her country sounds pathetic, and
b). find that amusing.

Happy to be on the opposite side.

 

[astralavi]

Yes, it takes a remainer to
a). think his/her country sounds pathetic, and
b). find that amusing.

Happy to be on the opposite side.

David Davis finds his own statements amusing, like when he was asked if he stood by his statement that "within two years we can negotiate a trade area massively larger than the EU." He laughed and said 'that was then and this is now'.

Or this "We currently have in place an assessment of 51 sectors of the economy. We are looking at those one by one, the aim at the end is that this will inform the negotiating approach so that no one gets hurt."

One year later “no systematic impact assessment on different sectors of the economy of leaving the European Union have been made"

He's quite the comedian.

 

[5ways]

its true though isnt it? if we accept the worse case scenarios, if we left with no deal, tariffs imposed, trade disrupted and so on, that would have a significant effect on EU economies. theres no scenario were its negative for UK and not for EU, only a matter of degree. perhaps though Davis needs a new argument, as the EU know this already.

New Brexiteer slogan "It is only a matter of degree" - once upon a time they had the gall to suggest Brexit would be net positive. Now its "we'll drag them down with us!"

 

[5ways]

Yes, it takes a remainer to
a). think his/her country sounds pathetic, and
b). find that amusing.

Happy to be on the opposite side.

It is a laugh or cry situation.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://www.gov.uk/government/latest?departments[]=department-for-exiting-the-european-union
regards
DR

 

[beorhthelm]

New Brexiteer slogan "It is only a matter of degree" - once upon a time they had the gall to suggest Brexit would be net positive. Now its "we'll drag them down with us!"

not slogans, this about the simple economics. if one major trading partner has problems you can be sure the neighbors will be impacted. its what the gravity models used to show how much we need the EU tell you.

 

[Dave the OAP]

50,000th reply on the Brexit thread - Congratulations [MENTION=396]WATFORD zero[/MENTION]

They were brilliant at the dome not long ago. If you get a chance to see them, do it!

 

[WATFORD zero]

not slogans, this about the simple economics. if one major trading partner has problems you can be sure the neighbors will be impacted. its what the gravity models used to show how much we need the EU tell you.

You are right in that a 'no deal' would impact the EU. However, it would be economic suicide for us and is why the EU and everyone who had given it any thought knew it was never an option.

Or alternatively, 'Project Fear'



Wonder if David Davis will still be in a job come the end of today

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

https://www.gov.uk/government/latest?departments[]=department-for-exiting-the-european-union
regards
DR

Also known as The Office of National SADistics.

[emoji38]ol:

 

[beorhthelm]

Wonder if David Davis will still be in a job come the end of today

i think Davis has been angling for the sack for some time, but May cant bin him without either causing a challenge or giving up on Brexit. or both.

 

[WATFORD zero]

i think Davis has been angling for the sack for some time, but May cant bin him without either causing a challenge or giving up on Brexit. or both.

If he goes today it will be his decision, Trust me

(and I think she all but gave up on Brexit last December).

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Don’t fret, an agreement will eventually be reached on NI. EU negotiations go to the wire so don’t be surprised if these do as well, its almost a given at some point in the future we will be watching news coverage of last minute mammoth talks going into the early hours, I can picture Kay Burley now camped outside some building somewhere with a pop up tent and a generator going in the background,
And a framework for future relationship and trade will be forthcoming too. Trade deal cant be finalised until after we have left anyway, but im sure you knew that right?

We had an agreement on NI, and now want to rip it up without a good alternative. Simply posting don't fret, it will all come out in the wash, is not reassuring. Don't forget the DUP hold the balance of power in parliament.

There is also Gibraltar.

Scotland will want independence once Brexit finishes, & this time their vote will go towards Yes, because of the betrayal of the rest of the U.K.

How to rip up agreements, treaties and friends in one 'easy' move.

 

[nicko31]

If he goes today it will be his decision, Trust me

(and I think she all but gave up on Brexit last December).

The problem is the Tories have been kidding themselves since last December as to what was agreed, they've had their heads in the sand ever since hoping for some silver bullet that doesn't exist.

Of course the deal with the EU is the backstop is open ended, ie no return to a hard border in Ireland period

Time for May to face down the Brexit loons, enough is enough.

 

[nicko31]

We had an agreement on NI, and now want to rip it up without a good alternative. Simply posting don't fret, it will all come out in the wash, is not reassuring. Don't forget the DUP hold the balance of power in parliament.

There is also Gibraltar.

Scotland will want independence once Brexit finishes, & this time their vote will go towards Yes, because of the betrayal of the rest of the U.K.

How to rip up agreements, treaties and friends in one 'easy' move.

Not having a Brexit vote to require a majority across all the 4 UK nations was pretty dumb, the future of our own Union hangs in the balance, thanks to Tory infighting and incompetence

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

We had an agreement on NI, and now want to rip it up without a good alternative. Simply posting don't fret, it will all come out in the wash, is not reassuring. Don't forget the DUP hold the balance of power in parliament.

There is also Gibraltar.

Scotland will want independence once Brexit finishes, & this time their vote will go towards Yes, because of the betrayal of the rest of the U.K.

How to rip up agreements, treaties and friends in one 'easy' move.

So, the Little Englanders will get their little England?