[Politics] Brexit

[Herr Tubthumper]

I caught the train down to St Ives yesterday.
It was a 2 coach overcrowded rattler that goes to Penzance, it's something to do with capacity on the line.
At each station was a poster saying that it will all change in December 2018 as work is taking place to allow more capacity, longer and faster trains.
Why is this possible?
Because it is mostly funded by The European Regional Development Fund.
The EU has plowed billions into infrastructure in Cornwall as it is deemed a very poor region of Europe which has really helped to make it easier to get here and attract a more visitors to a fabulous county.
Cornwall voted leave by a large majority mainly due to the fishing I think, but the fisherman seemed to have been stitched up on that, certainly before we leave and maybe even after we leave, they are furious but I have no sympathy for them.
Strangely the Cornish still think it was the right thing to do.
Extraordinary.

And the first thing the West Country did, pretty much the day after the referendum, was ask the government to cover their EU subsidies. If they think, that after decades of neglect, the government will suddenly start ploughing millions into their area then they’re even more stupid than I previously thought. I too, have zero sympathy. **** ‘em.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

I caught the train down to St Ives yesterday.
It was a 2 coach overcrowded rattler that goes to Penzance, it's something to do with capacity on the line.
At each station was a poster saying that it will all change in December 2018 as work is taking place to allow more capacity, longer and faster trains.
Why is this possible?
Because it is mostly funded by The European Regional Development Fund.
The EU has plowed billions into infrastructure in Cornwall as it is deemed a very poor region of Europe which has really helped to make it easier to get here and attract a more visitors to a fabulous county.
Cornwall voted leave by a large majority mainly due to the fishing I think, but the fisherman seemed to have been stitched up on that, certainly before we leave and maybe even after we leave, they are furious but I have no sympathy for them.
Strangely the Cornish still think it was the right thing to do.
Extraordinary.

Same applies to the Welsh minus the fishing. There was a something of regional negative correlation going on in terms of voting to remain and being subsidised by the EU. In simple terms: biting the hand that feeds you.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

I caught the train down to St Ives yesterday.
It was a 2 coach overcrowded rattler that goes to Penzance, it's something to do with capacity on the line.
At each station was a poster saying that it will all change in December 2018 as work is taking place to allow more capacity, longer and faster trains.
Why is this possible?
Because it is mostly funded by The European Regional Development Fund.
The EU has plowed billions into infrastructure in Cornwall as it is deemed a very poor region of Europe which has really helped to make it easier to get here and attract a more visitors to a fabulous county.
Cornwall voted leave by a large majority mainly due to the fishing I think, but the fisherman seemed to have been stitched up on that, certainly before we leave and maybe even after we leave, they are furious but I have no sympathy for them.
Strangely the Cornish still think it was the right thing to do.
Extraordinary.

Nothing against your post, but let's not pretend the EU are doing us a favour here. We have already contributed billions to EU pot over the years.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/29/brexit-blow-20bn-hole-eu-budget-european-commissioner
regards
DR

 

[pastafarian]

I caught the train down to St Ives yesterday.
It was a 2 coach overcrowded rattler that goes to Penzance, it's something to do with capacity on the line.
At each station was a poster saying that it will all change in December 2018 as work is taking place to allow more capacity, longer and faster trains.
Why is this possible?
Because it is mostly funded by The European Regional Development Fund.
The EU has plowed billions into infrastructure in Cornwall as it is deemed a very poor region of Europe which has really helped to make it easier to get here and attract a more visitors to a fabulous county.
Cornwall voted leave by a large majority mainly due to the fishing I think, but the fisherman seemed to have been stitched up on that, certainly before we leave and maybe even after we leave, they are furious but I have no sympathy for them.
Strangely the Cornish still think it was the right thing to do.
Extraordinary.

How many billions has the EU ploughed into Cornwall infrastructure out of interest? I know they currently get £590m for the budget period of 2014- 2020, about £85 million a year, were other budget periods significantly higher?...

And the first thing the West Country did, pretty much the day after the referendum, was ask the government to cover their EU subsidies. If they think, that after decades of neglect, the government will suddenly start ploughing millions into their area then they’re even more stupid than I previously thought. I too, have zero sympathy. **** ‘em.

The gov decides the allocations by intra country regions of our money coming back here via European Regional Development Funds and the European Social Fund.
Of all the money we paid in we got around £10 billion back for 2014-2020 budget of the European Structural and Investment Funds here, or around £1.5 billion per year.
It was the gov that split up the funds allocated, why shouldn’t Cornwall ask the very people who allocate the funds to cover such funds/subsidies in the future?
It was Vince Cable for example, who had to decide as part of his job being Secretary of State for business in 2014 how the last EU budgetary allocation would be distributed around the regions the last time.
Im surprised you didn’t realise this
**** ‘em......for going through the right channels seems a bit harsh and quite bitter.......is Cornwall now on your Stoke list?

Nothing against your post, but let's not pretend the EU are doing us a favour here. We have already contributed billions to EU pot over the years.

Indeed, spending our own money so to speak and at the the end of a project stick a EU flag next to it and say "Sponsored and paid for by The EU"..........Bravo

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-juncker-eu-budget-brexit-european-commission
regards
DR

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

“Force public sector to buy British food after Brexit – farm union”

“Food procured for every part of the public sector after Brexit should be sourced in the UK wherever possible, the National Farmers’ Union has said.“

Force feeding us with food from U.K. farms to make Brexit work. Unbelievable. Utterly unbelievable.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

“Force public sector to buy British food after Brexit – farm union”

“Food procured for every part of the public sector after Brexit should be sourced in the UK wherever possible, the National Farmers’ Union has said.“

Force feeding us with food from U.K. farms to make Brexit work. Unbelievable. Utterly unbelievable.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42634457
regards
DR

 

[nicko31]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42634457
regards
DR

Not a bad idea. How about one here to raise the £350m / week for the NHS?

 

[nicko31]

I caught the train down to St Ives yesterday.
It was a 2 coach overcrowded rattler that goes to Penzance, it's something to do with capacity on the line.
At each station was a poster saying that it will all change in December 2018 as work is taking place to allow more capacity, longer and faster trains.
Why is this possible?
Because it is mostly funded by The European Regional Development Fund.
The EU has plowed billions into infrastructure in Cornwall as it is deemed a very poor region of Europe which has really helped to make it easier to get here and attract a more visitors to a fabulous county.
Cornwall voted leave by a large majority mainly due to the fishing I think, but the fisherman seemed to have been stitched up on that, certainly before we leave and maybe even after we leave, they are furious but I have no sympathy for them.
Strangely the Cornish still think it was the right thing to do.
Extraordinary.

I remember them getting EU money to get their broadband as well. Gonna learn the hard way I'm afraid

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42634457
regards
DR

I’m not convinced there will be a funding gap. I mean, we won’t have to fund shit holes like Stoke, Burnley, Sunderland, the West Country and Wales any more. That will save us millions.

 

[larus]

I’m not convinced there will be a funding gap. I mean, we won’t have to fund shit holes like Stoke, Burnley, Sunderland, the West Country and Wales any more. That will save us millions.

I see. Some news from the EU about the budget shortfall and suddenly you don’t believe the EU.

You couldn’t make it up really. Priceless

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The House of Lords is standing up for the country more than the Labour leadership. Labour Lords defy the whip

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https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/993911076851826688

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[Thunder Bolt]

https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/993927616947245056

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[larus]

The House of Lords is standing up for the country more than the Labour leadership. Labour Lords defy the whip

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https://twitter.com/Andrew_Adonis/status/993911076851826688

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Or another way to put it is the out of touch elite defy the public vote on Brexit to protect their own interests.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Or another way to put it is the out of touch elite defy the public vote on Brexit to protect their own interests.

I would say the Labour peers are more in touch with the public than the so called elite in the House of Commons who lie.

 

[portslade seagull]

I would say the Labour peers are more in touch with the public than the so called elite in the House of Commons who lie.

Is that the minority who lost you mean ?

 

[GT49er]

I would say the Labour peers are more in touch with the public than the so called elite in the House of Commons who lie.

Really? The Commons wish Brexit hadn't happened, and they'd love more than anything else to scupper it altogether.

The House of Lords is made up of ex-House of Commons members who thought joining the EU was a good idea at the time, and they are mentally programmed not to admit they ever got it wrong - so basically, they are even more keen to derail Brexit than the Commons. So, apart from being unelected, they are even more out of touch with the majority than the Westminster bubble inhabitants of the Commons - although, of course, they are completely in touch with the minority that agree with them.

 

[larus]

I would say the Labour peers are more in touch with the public than the so called elite in the House of Commons who lie.

You’re entitle to your opinion. IMO, you are completely wrong though.

You think a group of unelected, old elites are in touch with the working people who voted for Brexit. Doesn’t quite ring true does it?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Really? The Commons wish Brexit hadn't happened, and they'd love more than anything else to scupper it altogether.

The House of Lords is made up of ex-House of Commons members who thought joining the EU was a good idea at the time, and they are mentally programmed not to admit they ever got it wrong - so basically, they are even more keen to derail Brexit than the Commons. So, apart from being unelected, they are even more out of touch with the majority than the Westminster bubble inhabitants of the Commons - although, of course, they are completely in touch with the minority that agree with them.

You know when you are in trouble when even the Daily Mail has turned.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5186797/Britons-Remain-Leave-10-points.html