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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
There have been some changes, no UK city can enter for European city of culture for example, because the funding would arrive post Brexit, perhaps that is the same with this and the grant, or portion of grant was due after March 2019.

Just a reminder it's UK taxpayers money being returned while most of the several Billion is spent elsewhere. We have already agreed to honour our financial commitments which means paying in after March 2019 to the end of the current EU financial cycle (2020) and beyond. I think it more likely someone was mistaken or as beorhthelm said fibbing. Perhaps Clamp could provide a link to the Radio 4 program, everythings on catchup nowadays shouldn't be too difficult.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,016
There have been some changes, no UK city can enter for European city of culture for example, because the funding would arrive post Brexit, perhaps that is the same with this and the grant, or portion of grant was due after March 2019.


i have not doubt it changes things. the suggestion you make highlights the fib, funding ending 2 years hence does not stop funding on the day. i find it amusing idea that the EU had bank of staff ready to dial round telling hundreds or thousands of grant holders they are being cancelled. knowing a little about grants in passing, its usually a bit more formal and long winded than that.
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,173
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Just a reminder it's UK taxpayers money being returned while most of the several Billion is spent elsewhere. We have already agreed to honour our financial commitments which means paying in after March 2019 to the end of the current EU financial cycle (2020) and beyond. I think it more likely someone was mistaken or as beorhthelm said fibbing. Perhaps Clamp could provide a link to the Radio 4 program, everythings on catchup nowadays shouldn't be too difficult.

I can do it for him as you're so interested, being the keen activist you are. It's about 5.30 in by the looks, or rather sounds, of it. Obviously you and beorthelm know best though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05x8zxq
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
The North East is highly exposed to Brexit. There's the Nissan plant too in Washington and a whole spin off industry from the plant. Turkeys voting for Christmas
They will just have to pick Cabbages, that's going to be a boom industry soon!
 








The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,185
West is BEST
my opinion is there's some fibs in there, because that is not how grants are awarded or maintained. the day we invoked a50 nothing changed in the economic or legal relationship with the EU, it only started a countdown to change. we still pay in, grants are still awarded. i suspect their grant ran out and they no longer qualified for it.

So you're just dismissing it as lies. Ok.
By the way that is exactly how EU regeneration grants were awarded. I'd be surprised if a small business man would tell a whopper like that on BBC radio.
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,094
The North East is highly exposed to Brexit. There's the Nissan plant too in Washington and a whole spin off industry from the plant. Turkeys voting for Christmas

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/broadcast/read/43738
Dr Michael Gasiorek, UKTPO Fellow and Senior Lecturer in Economics at the University of Sussex, said: “This in-depth analysis confirms that Brexit is likely to have very different effects on different industries and sectors, and it is really important to understand these differences – for future policy and for the negotiations with the EU.

“The type of Brexit we end up with really does matter.”

Professor Alasdair Smith commented: “While manufacturing is likely to take a hit whatever option is chosen, a soft Brexit deal for the UK could avoid catastrophe in favour of something far more manageable.”

The report, published today with a briefing at Chatham House in London, also models the impact on different areas of the UK, finding large variations in exposure.

Areas most at risk of substantial manufacturing employment loss include Fylde in Lancashire, where employment is concentrated in the manufacturing of aircraft, and Leicester, with a prominent clothing and textiles industry.

In addition, areas with a significant motor vehicle sector such as Sunderland, Birmingham, Coventry, Derby, Cheshire East, Solihull and County Durham are most at risk of job losses in high-tech industries. This provides further illustration of the significant risks that a ‘no deal’ Brexit poses to large-scale manufacturing employers in the UK.
 




Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
It's like the end of the world is nigh, the country will never ever recover, FOR EVER IN THE DARK AGES :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
regards
DR

Do you have employment, run a business, sub-contract or anything? Got kids, wife, mortgage, or other responsibilities?
 






Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
don't worry about what I've got, stop worrying about speculation !!!
regards
DR

Not particularly worried about what you have, or don't have, just wondering why being poorer doesn't seem to bother you. I should be alright myself, but as well as many others, my kids will be leaving University and looking for work at a time when there will be less opportunity for them, here and on the continent. Areas reliant on one or two large employers to drive the whole local economy, could be ruined.
Either you dont believe any of that could or will happen, or you just don't care, because it won't happen to you, I was just trying to find out which it is.
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
58,792
hassocks
Still gong well then?

Country in Chaos, no leadership and on the road to ruin.

Good stuff

PM refuses to rule out the selling off of NHS to appease our US overlords.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,016
So you're just dismissing it as lies. Ok.
By the way that is exactly how EU regeneration grants were awarded. I'd be surprised if a small business man would tell a whopper like that on BBC radio.

if you say so. sounds like a very precarious way to run a business, basing expediture on funds that can be summarily withdrawn. grants from lottery and other schemes are more fixed. but, with all the lies and mistruths said on all sides by people with a lot more reputation, this would be a saver menu lie. claiming they had the next big thing in a notoriously unpredictable market prickled my spidey sense here, to go on and say it was down to Brexit is amusing and saddening ar same time. its all getting a bit ridiculous, arguing over such minor, yet important locally impacts of brexit, when there was no proper exporation of what the EU does for such places during the campaign, only the hyperbole of doom from Osborne.
 


BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
You ignore the question I asked but I'll answer yours.

Yes, I provide a little financial support to the causes I believe in, charitable and political.

I'm out, why would anyone pay for the privilege to align themselves to a political party, it's like debating with a Tottenham fan who thinks they are better then the four teams above them, the points and the lack of trophies are irrelevant to them.
 


Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
I'm sure your contributions will make all the difference. Maybe you are right ... The Independent then?

Disappointed to see you condoning his intolerance. The 'old' was clearly being used as a derogatory term.

I'm not sure I condoned Nick Clegg's comment; I simply pointed out the statistical evidence on which it was based. I note your sarcasm about the likely effects of my modest contributions to causes I think are worthwhile. It tells me a little about you. As does your fondness for making assumptions - you can be as certain that I read the Independent and Guardian as I can be that you read the Daily Mail.
 


BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
So you're just dismissing it as lies. Ok.
By the way that is exactly how EU regeneration grants were awarded. I'd be surprised if a small business man would tell a whopper like that on BBC radio.

Perhaps he is dismissing it as inappropriate funding to someone that either doesn't necessarily need or deserves it as much as someone else, seems a good example why bringing back the decision on whom and what to use tax payers money on.
 






BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
Interesting how the updated impact reports say the areas that will be hardest hit financially by leaving the EU are the areas who most voted for leaving such as the North East. I wonder who the swivel eyed LOONS will blame then ???

Don't be so hard on yourself mate ................................
 


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