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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,705
The Fatherland






Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
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Jul 11, 2003
62,705
The Fatherland
I think I'm done with this thread now. I think I know where everyone stands (and Pastafarian seems to have the hots for the wife :smile:)

May the best team win. See you all in a few weeks time.
 


Maldini

Banned
Aug 19, 2015
927
Is this an admission that your analogy was a bit stupid.

No after your post in 'Father's Rights' it's my admission that I don't want a sick and twisted ________ like you replying to my post's.This post proves further what an utter ______ you are now do one cos I don't want to get banned from this site because of you.
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
62,705
The Fatherland
No after your post in 'Father's Rights' it's my admission that I don't want a sick and twisted ________ like you replying to my post's.This post proves further what an utter ______ you are now do one cos I don't want to get banned from this site because of you.

1) I made a genuine apology to you first in private. Then repeated my apology on this site in public. I know when I have over-stepped the mark and on that occasion I knew. There was no intended malice in my post, just shit timed humour. Whether you chose to accept that apology is your choice. I hope you do, but totally understand if you don't.
2) You then had a further choice. Whether to perpetuate this issue, or let it lie. You've chosen the former whilst alluding to the latter. Whilst I have not made any contentious posts you are clearly agitating. You can ignore me, or put me on ignore, but you're choosing not to. In fact your choosing to post inflammatory messages. If you want an argument and further drama then carry on. If you don't then stop.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,016
Public Health; how will us leaving the EU impact the availability of new pharmaceutical/biological drugs?

drugs are freely available on the global market, unless the EU were to impose export tariffs that wouldn't change.

in this field, how about data retention of prescriptions: if we remain we will have all prescriptions being logged and uploaded to a central european database before the end of the decade. i don't have a problem with that myself but a lot of people might see potential infringement of privacy there.
 


Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
From the FT editorial... "The campaign being waged by Vote Leave ahead of the EU referendum is unlike any that has been seen in British politics. One distinguishing feature is the zeal with which it launches personalised attacks on any institution or public figure that points out the risks the UK would face if it left the bloc."

...and, indeed, any private figure by the look of this thread.

Signed, ****** ****
 




drugs are freely available on the global market, unless the EU were to impose export tariffs that wouldn't change.

in this field, how about data retention of prescriptions: if we remain we will have all prescriptions being logged and uploaded to a central european database before the end of the decade. i don't have a problem with that myself but a lot of people might see potential infringement of privacy there.

Every pharmaceutical drug/presentation sold in the UK is licensed following a detailed assessment of the quality, safety and efficacy; this has been so since the 1960's. The QSE assessment (which includes the labelling and leaflet) is also an ongoing process (pharmacovigilance).
New drugs are licensed via a centralised procedure administered by the European Medicines Agency whereby a single assessment facilitates the issuing of a license (Marketing Authorisation) by the EU Commission that is valid in all EU members states, Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein. The UK currently has no stand alone legislative framework for assessing new pharmaceutical products.
I'm not sure what you mean by "drugs being freely available on the global market"? If you're using or suggesting using some sort of unlicensed online pharmacy or website then this is basically unsafe and a counterfeiter's charter. Prescription only medicines (POM) should only be obtained when in possession of a valid prescription and supplied by a registered pharmacy; sale or supply of an unlicensed medicine (including incorrect labelling) is a criminal offence.
 


Maldini

Banned
Aug 19, 2015
927
1) I made a genuine apology to you first in private. Then repeated my apology on this site in public. I know when I have over-stepped the mark and on that occasion I knew. There was no intended malice in my post, just shit timed humour. Whether you chose to accept that apology is your choice. I hope you do, but totally understand if you don't.
2) You then had a further choice. Whether to perpetuate this issue, or let it lie. You've chosen the former whilst alluding to the latter. Whilst I have not made any contentious posts you are clearly agitating. You can ignore me, or put me on ignore, but you're choosing not to. In fact your choosing to post inflammatory messages. If you want an argument and further drama then carry on. If you don't then stop.

You apologised only due to the overwhelming amount of criticism you received.There are some things you just don't joke about.I took it no further however rather than being sensible and keeping away from my posts you can't help yourself but to criticise.You provoke because that is clearly your nature then you wonder why someone tells you where to go.Many thanks for the tip on putting you on ignore.I didn't know that was possible so will do so now.Have a nice life and try not to upset too many people.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
How about environmental issues, how will us leaving the EU benefit the environment?

I suppose that depends where you are going to build all the new houses and infrastructure to keep up with the rise in net immigration year in year out, that in turn is the main reason for the rapid increase in current and projected UK population growth. 70 million plus within 15 years. Better start digging up those greenfield sites asap.

I see Boris has given Dave a bit of a kicking.

Net migration to UK rises to 333,000 - second highest on record

The net migration figure for EU citizens was 184,000 - a record number.


Boris Johnson said David Cameron had been "cynical" to promise to bring net migration down to below 100,000 while the UK was part of the EU.

Speaking to BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, the Conservative MP and former London Mayor said it was "cynical and unacceptable to say you can fulfil that pledge".

"I think that they (the figures) show the scandal of the promise made by politicians repeatedly that they could cut immigration to the tens of thousands and then to throw their hands up in the air and say there's nothing we can do because Brussels has taken away our control of immigration," he said.

..... The new ONS figures show that 77,000 EU migrants have come to the UK without employment.

Boris Johnson has reacted furiously to the latest figures.

He told Sky News: "EU net immigration alone represents a city the size of Colchester, 77,000 EU immigrants have come here without any kind of job at all, despite the promises we heard from the Prime Minister and others that they would get changes in the EU treaty insisting people would have to have a job before they came here."
 




5ways

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Sep 18, 2012
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Trufflehound

Re-enfranchised
Aug 5, 2003
14,126
The democratic and free EU
I suppose that depends where you are going to build all the new houses and infrastructure to keep up with the rise in net immigration year in year out, that in turn is the main reason for the rapid increase in current and projected UK population growth. 70 million plus within 15 years. Better start digging up those greenfield sites asap.

Don't forget you'll also need to build prisons to house the 76 million Turkish criminals that your lot assures us are on their way.

It's a good job Vote Leave "doesn't do" scaremongering.
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Don't forget you'll also need to build prisons to house the 76 million Turkish criminals that your lot assures us are on their way.

Apparently only 12 million Turkish people expressed an interest in living/working here so you need not worry. But it's certainly true that over 10% of our prison population are foreign nationals so any largescale future immigration that we have no control over would be likely to increase this figure ... so yes probably more prisons too.
 




Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
Don't forget you'll also need to build prisons to house the 76 million Turkish criminals that your lot assures us are on their way.

It's a good job Vote Leave "doesn't do" scaremongering.

And has anyone mentioned that we don't have a veto to stop Turkey joining?
 


Trufflehound

Re-enfranchised
Aug 5, 2003
14,126
The democratic and free EU
Apparently only 12 million Turkish people expressed an interest in living/working here so you need not worry.

I have often "expressed an interest" in being fabulously wealthy and leisured. Unfortunately, like the arrival of 12 or 76 million Turks, it ain't gonna happen.
 


daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
Apparently only 12 million Turkish people expressed an interest in living/working here so you need not worry. But it's certainly true that over 10% of our prison population are foreign nationals so any largescale future immigration that we have no control over would be likely to increase this figure ... so yes probably more prisons too.

Pretty low compared to many EU countries,.
 






Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
Apparently only 12 million Turkish people expressed an interest in living/working here so you need not worry. But it's certainly true that over 10% of our prison population are foreign nationals so any largescale future immigration that we have no control over would be likely to increase this figure ... so yes probably more prisons too.

Why would large-scale future immigration be likely to increase the 10% figure? Are immigrants becoming more criminal?
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
I have often "expressed an interest" in being fabulously wealthy and leisured. Unfortunately, like the arrival of 12 or 76 million Turks, it ain't gonna happen.

I think it's likely most of those 'expressing an interest' wouldn't but even if only 25% did that's another 3 million people. It ain't gonna happen? How do you know this?

Why are the UK and the EU giving Billions to Turkey so they meet the EU entry criteria?
 


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