[Politics] Brexit

[Lincoln Imp]

Bit unfair imo. She is only trying to fufill what she sees as her obligation to carry out Brexit. Her other option is to have parliament or the people give her a different mandate.

I accept that a lukewarm Remainer politician might feel the need to fulfil an obligation to go down a different path in the least harmful way. May has not done this.

 

[beorhthelm]

If the hard core Brexiteers keeping pushing for the extreme Brexit, they could see no Brexit at all and they need to wake up fast

as things stand, the default future state is full Brexit, not no Brexit. that has been the case ever since parliament voted to approve it went ahead. remainers may get something into the Exiting the EU bill to force another vote on the deal, which assumes there is a deal. someone might try to table a blanket "reverse Brexit" vote, dont think such a significant clause could be passed.

 

[vegster]

Mrs May April 2017......Theresa May has used her Easter message to suggest people are “coming together and uniting” following divisions over the Brexit referendum.
The Prime Minister stressed the opportunities for the country as it leaves the European Union and said the shared values of Britons “can – and must – bring us together”.

She said: “This year, after a period of intense debate over the right future for our country, there is a sense that people are coming together and uniting behind the opportunities that lie ahead.
“For at heart, this country is one great union of people and nations with a proud history and a bright future. "


Well I think that went rather well ?

 

[mikeyjh]

I'm not sure that they are. They are a party whose raison d'etre is to ensure the Union with Britain is preserved. Their sole reason for not accepting the compromise is that they worry it makes them economically closer to the Republic of Ireland than Britain.

The idiots here are the Tories, who unnecessarily went to the polls and then ran the most arrogant campaign in history, found they had lost a majority and so got into bed with the DUP in order to preserve their grip on power. We are now all paying the price.

We should not forget the £1bn bribe. Vultures yes, idiots no.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

I see our resident know-all has decided he knows how every Irish person voted in the Referendum.Has he perhaps conducted a survey of all the citizens of the Republic and Ulster,or is he just blowing smoke out of his backside as normal?

This is beyond understanding and how a man who doesn't even know what Ulster is can ramble on about Ireland is unclear.

 

[Two Professors]

Just been chatting to an old Army pal who I served alongside in Ulster.Pretty sure I know where,and what it is.I even know that Turkey and Syria share a land border (or boarder if you prefer the Irish spelling),much as the Northern and Southern parts of Ireland do.Must go,Steptoe has had his vitamins and got up to speak.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Just been chatting to an old Army pal who I served alongside in Ulster.Pretty sure I know where,and what it is.I even know that Turkey and Syria share a land border (or boarder if you prefer the Irish spelling),much as the Northern and Southern parts of Ireland do.Must go,Steptoe has had his vitamins and got up to speak.

Fine. Can you explain where and what it is then?

 

[WATFORD zero]

My I first of all state that I am not,and have never been,GT49 er.:

I never thought you were GT49er

I thought [MENTION=11191]Pretty pink fairy[/MENTION] invented you so that he could post what he really thought without appearing stupid

 

[GT49er]

Gawd, it's come to this now, then!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaO4XeHhwo8

Pretty carp single though!

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Fine. Can you explain where and what it is then?

Is County Donegal in Ulster or in the ROI or is there a trick in this question ?

 

[Pavilionaire]

Mrs May April 2017......Theresa May has used her Easter message to suggest people are “coming together and uniting” following divisions over the Brexit referendum.
The Prime Minister stressed the opportunities for the country as it leaves the European Union and said the shared values of Britons “can – and must – bring us together”.

She said: “This year, after a period of intense debate over the right future for our country, there is a sense that people are coming together and uniting behind the opportunities that lie ahead.
“For at heart, this country is one great union of people and nations with a proud history and a bright future. "


Well I think that went rather well ?

Empty words from arguably the worst Prime Minister this country has ever had.

 

[Two Professors]

I never thought you were GT49er

I thought [MENTION=11191]Pretty pink fairy[/MENTION] invented you so that he could post what he really thought without appearing stupid

Are you the echo or the original?

 

[Two Professors]

Fine. Can you explain where and what it is then?

All depends which Ulster you,or Zero, are asking about.

 

[cheshunt seagull]

The DUP is more than happy to insist on differences with other parts of the UK when it comes to areas like abortion. The reality seems that it is less a question of a great love for union with UK but that it enables them to sustain their medieval social agenda at the same time as protecting their supporters from being a minority in a united Ireland. The latter is based on an assumption that as a minority they will be treated as badly as they always treated the minority in their province.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Is County Donegal in Ulster or in the ROI or is there a trick in this question ?

No, it’s not a trick question. [MENTION=14132]Two Professors[/MENTION] seems to have a different understanding to most others so I wanted to clarify what his version of Ulster is. Alternatively he could just be stupid.

 

[Gwylan]

All depends which Ulster you,or Zero, are asking about.

Er... there is only one Ulster. I suggest you invest in an atlas

 

[Westdene Seagull]

What about it?

Your post implied that each region should have it's wish respected so England voted to leave and Scotland voted to stay - how do you reconcile those votes with the idea of allowing NI it's wish ?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

To be fair, most people who had given any thought to Brexit, on both sides realised on 24th June 2016 that N.Ireland may be a bit of a problem but, as with every other issue, it was kicked into the long grass until the last possible date (today).

It seems that highlighting the perspective issues in advance is 'talking the country down'. And each time I have got into a conversation with [MENTION=599]beorhthelm[/MENTION] or [MENTION=33253]JC Footy Genius[/MENTION] (I can't be arsed with the Two Profs, Ppf or the Nasty Porn King) they have always ended up with 'Well what do you think we should do ?"

So, just to make it clear what I would do.

1/ I wouldn't follow the signs that say 'To shit creek'

2/ I DEFINITELY wouldn't throw away my f***ing paddle

Feel free to link to any post where I have asked you 'Well what do you think we should do ?" Why would anyone ask any #teameu regular on here as the answer would always be ignore/circumvent the referendum and the last election result.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Your post implied that each region should have it's wish respected so England voted to leave and Scotland voted to stay - how do you reconcile those votes with the idea of allowing NI it's wish ?

But Brighton voted to stay (although I accept the arse end of Hangleton may not have)

 

[Pavilionaire]

Northern Ireland itself is at a crossroads. The last election threw up the outcome of the Unionist Parties not having a majority of seats since 1921. Martin McGuinness is gone, along with Sir Ian Paisley, Prince Charles has shaken Gerry Adams' hand, but Adams himself is pushing 70 and has announced his attention to step down as Sinn Fein leader in 2018.

The EU Referendum outcome has forced NI to consider its future, while the DUP arrangement with the Tories appears to be leading the country to a Hard Brexit its people voted against by a clear majority. The Republic has a progressive leader in Varadkar.

Given these factors and the forces of change you have to think that there's a decent chance Northern Ireland might vote to leave the UK if presented with the opportunity to do so.