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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,099


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
There needs to be a vote on the final deal, either parliament, the public or both

It's going to get a lot worse yet, NHS recruitment from abroad ( Those cheap nurses and other specialists ) is down dramatically, the NFU is predicting a food crisis as it won't have enough low paid migrant labour to grow and pick our crops. That's on top of the haemorrhaging financial services leaving the City.
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
It's going to get a lot worse yet, NHS recruitment from abroad ( Those cheap nurses and other specialists ) is down dramatically, the NFU is predicting a food crisis as it won't have enough low paid migrant labour to grow and pick our crops. That's on top of the haemorrhaging financial services leaving the City.

The NHS is London I know for a fact is already in a staff recruitment crisis.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
The NHS is London I know for a fact is already in a staff recruitment crisis.

NHS in London has been in recruitment crisis for years, with house prices, intensity of work and national pay making pay relatively higher (to cost of living), drawing staff away. not everything is about Brexit you know.

question about a vote on the deal - what do you expect happens if the deal is voted against? you have these scenarios: we renegotiate (is there time, will the EU engage?), or call off the whole exit, continue the exit with nothing in place. which is it that you wish for?
 


portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,948
portslade
NHS in London has been in recruitment crisis for years, with house prices, intensity of work and national pay making pay relatively higher (to cost of living), drawing staff away. not everything is about Brexit you know.

question about a vote on the deal - what do you expect happens if the deal is voted against? you have these scenarios: we renegotiate (is there time, will the EU engage?), or call off the whole exit, continue the exit with nothing in place. which is it that you wish for?

Oh come on all the woes are blamedonBrexit don't you know. They are scouring everything today for all the little morsels
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,168
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...s-registering-work-britain-falls-90-per-cent/

Another triumph for our proud Brexiteers! But hang on surely this is just Project Fear propaganda put out by the notoriously biased Remain Rag, the Daily Telegraph?
Seriously: is this what you really wanted? Is this what 'taking back control' really meant?

Everyone knew what they were voting for, remember? Net-migration is going down, immigrants are leaving - it's an absolute triumph. Miss Marple Britain didn't have an NHS, so we won't need immigrants nurses in the future utopia.
 


Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
Oh come on all the woes are blamedonBrexit don't you know. They are scouring everything today for all the little morsels

Just to clarify, are you saying that the 90 per cent decline in EU nurses since the referendum is, like the damaging drop in the value of sterling and the precipitous relative falls in growth and business confidence (a) nothing to do with Brexit (b) a little bit to do with Brexit (c) very largely to do with Brexit or (d) entirely to do with Brexit?

I'd pitch it between c and d overall.

PS - you're wrong about people scouring everything today. For example, no one has yet mentioned this morning's reports that the EC is investigating the possibility that the Kremlin helped finance the Leave campaign. Not proven yet of course but why, I suppose we should ask, would the Kremlin want to see us out of the EU?
 






Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...s-registering-work-britain-falls-90-per-cent/

Another triumph for our proud Brexiteers! But hang on surely this is just Project Fear propaganda put out by the notoriously biased Remain Rag, the Daily Telegraph?
Seriously: is this what you really wanted? Is this what 'taking back control' really meant?

Is there some sort of time warp in Worthing?This was done to death weeks ago.The fall in EU nurses is mainly down to the requirement that they have to speak English now.I'm sure even you will agree that is a necessary attribute for a nurse in a British hospital.The number leaving is only about 0.2% of those on the Register.Non-EU nurses are coming in ever larger numbers,and training places are expanding by 25%.Please find something new to whine about.:yawn:
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum




5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
"Carney says that the Brexit vote has exacerbated Britain’s long-standing productivity problems, by deterring businesses from making new investments.

This is affecting the amount of spare capacity in the UK economy (a key factor on how fast the Bank will raise interest rates)."
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
"Carney says that the Brexit vote has exacerbated Britain’s long-standing productivity problems, by deterring businesses from making new investments.

This is affecting the amount of spare capacity in the UK economy (a key factor on how fast the Bank will raise interest rates)."

Time to introduce a bit of reality and balance-shame you didn't feel it necessary to quote the rest,even though most people have Carney on ignore:lol:

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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
While the subject is reality and balance,how can this bunch run a witch hunt into anything-more biased than BBC moderators!:lolol:

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beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
"Carney says that the Brexit vote has exacerbated Britain’s long-standing productivity problems, by deterring businesses from making new investments.

This is affecting the amount of spare capacity in the UK economy (a key factor on how fast the Bank will raise interest rates)."

maybe instead of highlighting Brexit as a factor, Mr Carney might like to offer some solutions to the issues of perennial productivity problem, and business's lack of investment (going back nearly a decade)?

this is the criticism of the remainers, shining a light and examination of every single issue of negative impact, while never taking a broader view.
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Is there some sort of time warp in Worthing?This was done to death weeks ago.The fall in EU nurses is mainly down to the requirement that they have to speak English now.I'm sure even you will agree that is a necessary attribute for a nurse in a British hospital.The number leaving is only about 0.2% of those on the Register.Non-EU nurses are coming in ever larger numbers,and training places are expanding by 25%.Please find something new to whine about.:yawn:

I've got this vision of you as the Titanic sinks still saying that it is unsinkable. Are you familiar the character Dr Pangloss in Voltaire's Candide? (You are though spot-on with regard to one thing: it's because Worthing is indeed in a time-warp that so many around here voted Leave.) This is Project Fail - not all the evidence is pointing that way but it is accumulating at a scary rate.
 








5ways

Well-known member
Sep 18, 2012
2,217
maybe instead of highlighting Brexit as a factor, Mr Carney might like to offer some solutions to the issues of perennial productivity problem, and business's lack of investment (going back nearly a decade)?

this is the criticism of the remainers, shining a light and examination of every single issue of negative impact, while never taking a broader view.

Fair enough but I know what won't help a lack of investment into the UK :whistle:
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
Fair enough but I know what won't help a lack of investment into the UK :whistle:

but that wasn't even the criticism. it was UK business not investing, there has been a problem since around 2008 with companies sitting on billions of cash. this has nothing to do with Brexit, neither does the productivity problem in the UK
 


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