[Politics] Brexit

[GT49er]

So was I and nor is mine. Your characterisation of the campaign is batty to be honest. Presumably you're including Enoch Powell among your pinko-lefties.

No, he was the fall back demon for those who said, yes, they would vote the same way as Anthony Wedgwood-Benn. "Oh,, you're a fascist, right wing racist then?" Were you really not bright enough to see that? I only ask that because I wonder about the sanity of anyone who suggests that anyone would include Enoch Powell in a list of pinko-lefties.
It appears that you couldn't recognise a dirty campaign back then any better than you could this time round. Still, calling people who disagree with you batty certainly adds weight and credibility to your argument..........

 

[Baldseagull]

most people decided they wanted out of the eu long before the referendum.

The early polls suggest otherwise, it started out heavily in favour of remain, leave made some headway, but really gained ground when they pushed immigration issues.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Come on now, our future success as a trading nation depends on who we can do deals with so who have you got in mind? Are you thinking of small countries like Chad or bigger ones like Australia? I think we should do a deal with the EU personally - you've said you disagree with this so tell us who. You mentioned Albania and Montenegro - are they among the ones you are thinking of?

i'm not striking up trade deals so who knows who it will be , forget about your EU dream it's finished FFS
regards
DR

 

[GT49er]

The early polls suggest otherwise, it started out heavily in favour of remain, leave made some headway, but really gained ground when remain just kept banging on about the economy and trade, and nothing else whatsoever (because nothing else mattered).

Corrected for you.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

i'm not striking up trade deals so who knows who it will be , forget about your EU dream it's finished FFS
regards
DR

So you think that plenty of good trade deals will come our way but you don't have a clue who with?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

So you think that plenty of good trade deals will come our way but you don't have a clue who with?

let's wait and see
regards
DR

 

[Lincoln Imp]

No, he was the fall back demon for those who said, yes, they would vote the same way as Anthony Wedgwood-Benn. "Oh,, you're a fascist, right wing racist then?" Were you really not bright enough to see that? I only ask that because I wonder about the sanity of anyone who suggests that anyone would include Enoch Powell in a list of pinko-lefties.
It appears that you couldn't recognise a dirty campaign back then any better than you could this time round. Still, calling people who disagree with you batty certainly adds weight and credibility to your argument..........

Oh sweet lord. My refererence to Enoch Powell was an ironic reference to your suggestion that the campaign was all about pinko-lefties. I wasn't seriously suggesting that Powell was one for heaven's sake. And read my post again - I didn't say that you were batty, merely that your description of the campaign was. It's the same difference as between claiming somebody said something foolish and calling them a fool.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

most people decided they wanted out of the eu long before the referendum.

As well as being utter bollocks, this 'contribution ' has got nothing to do with the point I was making.

 

[cheshunt seagull]

It's this pessimism that could ruin our economy, which then gives them a reason to try and block Brexit at the very end. I know the game. Bunch of undemocratic bad fing loser politicians.

There is a very big difference between preaching doom so that you can say “we told you so” and trying to make the best of a situation which many of us did not wish to see. To do the latter we need the administration managing it to give us something to work with…. like actual plans. The people that I work alongside fall very much in the latter camp but get totally pissed off when every attempt to ask an awkward question gets shouted down with an accusation of being a remoaner. We are leaving , you won, but don't let paranoia paralyse debate and scrutiny....we all know where that leads.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Do we understand that Farage is now claiming that the Westminster horror is an immigration issue? Are there no depths to which this person won't sink?

 

[studio150]

Do we understand that Farage is now claiming that the Westminster horror is an immigration issue? Are there no depths to which this person won't sink?

It has parallels in history in that we obviously need to go back to parents and grandparents. Where any of these are immigrants it must follow in the UKIP mind that both children and grandchildren must also be immigrants.

It would be frightening if they were anywhere near being in power.


On a different tract I wonder what leavers think of the Government looking to use powers from Henry VIII to wave through legislation on leaving the EU without giving Parliament the opportunity to debate the changes. Is Mrs May on her way to becoming a dictator or is it the will of the people to do away with democracy.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

It has parallels in history in that we obviously need to go back to parents and grandparents. Where any of these are immigrants it must follow in the UKIP mind that both children and grandchildren must also be immigrants.

It would be frightening if they were anywhere near being in power.


On a different tract I wonder what leavers think of the Government looking to use powers from Henry VIII to wave through legislation on leaving the EU without giving Parliament the opportunity to debate the changes. Is Mrs May on her way to becoming a dictator or is it the will of the people to do away with democracy.

That's what the EU has been doing to us for years. Feel like your using control, that's what Leavers have felt for the last 15-20 years.

 

[Soulman]

That's what the EU has been doing to us for years. Feel like your using control, that's what Leavers have felt for the last 15-20 years.

Soon we shall be able to plot our own destiny.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Soon we shall be able to plot our own destiny.

And good job too.

 

[Titanic]

Only just seen this... the bedwetters-in-chief were out in full force in the Grauniad/Observer this weekend:

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...50-jeopardises-60-years-of-unparalleled-peace

 

[portslade seagull]

Only just seen this... the bedwetters-in-chief were out in full force in the Grauniad/Observer this weekend:

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...50-jeopardises-60-years-of-unparalleled-peace

Gave up after the first paragraph. If anybody has followed anything like sheep it is the EU with Merkel not daring to question anything in case they upset the witch. Thank God we will be free of this.

 

[studio150]

Only just seen this... the bedwetters-in-chief were out in full force in the Grauniad/Observer this weekend:

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...50-jeopardises-60-years-of-unparalleled-peace

The article is spot on in my view.

 

[ManOfSussex]

The article is spot on in my view.

and mine.

 

[The Clamp]

If you and studio stop making statements that I have not stated then I would not post the response.

You plum! You said it a few posts before you denied saying it! You're hilarious.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Soon we shall be able to plot our own destiny.

Out of interest what are the key items you're looking for in the forthcoming negotiations?