[Politics] Brexit

[beorhthelm]

Keep the £4,300 each year, no to brexit

what do you plan to do with your £4,300 next year? will they be paying it as a lump sum or is it monthly?

 

[Hamilton]

Says the person who thinks every member of the EU has an equal say, EU immigration can be controlled and that the EU is reformable.

You come back with evidence that proves otherwise.

It's really important this debate is driven by facts and not hyperbole.

 

[Hamilton]

what do you plan to do with your £4,300 next year? will they be paying it as a lump sum or is it monthly?

Again, £4,300 is a crooked fact. The is the figure that is averaged out across every household. It is still a monumental figure and would cause significant damage to the economy, but it must be seen as an average figure. Both Remain and Leave must talk in facts.

 

[Hamilton]

so what is the point of the EU?

A very powerful trading bloc that we are a part of. Access to a huge market and access to a rich employment market. Through the trading bloc, access to other markets and the removal of red tape. The ability to work closely with neighbours to agree common legislation.

What is wrong? Waste. It can be much much more efficient.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Again, £4,300 is a crooked fact. The is the figure that is averaged out across every household. It is still a monumental figure and would cause significant damage to the economy, but it must be seen as an average figure. Both Remain and Leave must talk in facts.

is this insistence coming from Brussels

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It is certainly true nuance is often lost in these threads. I don't think having a disproportionate influence or guiding the direction of the EU can be interpreted as Germany winning the war!

I'm astounded anyone can be content with a British Prime Minister needing permission from the Germans to increase control of our borders but that is the situation we find ourselves in.

Agree with you this thread isn't about changing minds it's about arguing the toss for no apparent reason.

I enjoy reading your posts. All the best

 

[Hampster Gull]

House prices will be 18% lower with Brexit!!!

Mortgages will get more expensive!!!

FFS Brexit

 

[5ways]

It is certainly true nuance is often lost in these threads. I don't think having a disproportionate influence or guiding the direction of the EU can be interpreted as Germany winning the war!

I'm astounded anyone can be content with a British Prime Minister needing permission from the Germans to increase control of our borders but that is the situation we find ourselves in.

Agree with you this thread isn't about changing minds it's about arguing the toss for no apparent reason.

You mean I haven't convinced hundreds?

 

[glasfryn]

gideon (george Osbourne) is now saying that house prices will fall by as much as 15% if we leave the EU
yipee maybe rents will go down too?

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

House prices will be 18% lower with Brexit!!!

Mortgages will get more expensive!!!

FFS Brexit

so i will have to pay more for a cheaper house

 

[Hampster Gull]

so i will have to pay more for a cheaper house

And with an ever depreciating £ post Brexit your house will become more and more worthless over time, whilst imprts will ge tmore and more expensive. No american style fridge freezer

 

[JC Footy Genius]

You come back with evidence that proves otherwise.

It's really important this debate is driven by facts and not hyperbole.

If you don't know one vote each in the council of ministers doesn't equate to equal influence or that we have bug*er all control of EU immigration or that reforming the EU in a direction away from ever closer union is unachievable then you are quite possibly the most uninformed person contributing to this thread which is quite an achievement.

As a lover of facts please show me one EU treaty that hasn't reinforced ever closer union... Or how we can limit EU immigration ..Or how we can or have reform/ed the EU in a direction more to our liking?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

You mean I haven't convinced hundreds?

Depends how gullible people are ... but I respect your commitment and tenacity, a worthy adversary

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

And with an ever depreciating £ post Brexit your house will become more and more worthless over time, whilst imprts will ge tmore and more expensive. No american style fridge freezer

scare mongering.............house prices fall and mortgages rise? you could not make it up....oh hang on

 

[glasfryn]

And with an ever depreciating £ post Brexit your house will become more and more worthless over time, whilst imprts will ge tmore and more expensive. No american style fridge freezer

lots of cheap rents then .....................................can't wait

 

[Hampster Gull]

lots of cheap rents then .....................................can't wait

And fewer jobs and those with jobs on lower wages..but cheaper rents

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

lots of cheap rents then .....................................can't wait

probably go up,to recoup monies lost .............win win will pay for all those expensive imports we hear about

 

[pastafarian]

House prices will be 18% lower with Brexit!!!

good news for those struggling to get on housing market.
might sway some votes to brexit

whose forecast is this?
Farage?Boris?Gove?

 

[glasfryn]

And fewer jobs and those with jobs on lower wages..but cheaper rents

really don't see how you work that one out
but it will stop the buy to rent game.

 

[Hampster Gull]

good news for those struggling to get on housing market.
might sway some votes to Brexit

With fewer jobs and more unemployed lower houses wont be cheap relative to wages