So do we assume they are supportive of the Qatari regime and human rights records if they say nothing AND officially sponsor the tournament ?
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[Drinking] Brewdog: hipsters”, “pretentious”, “wankers”, “********s” or simply "full of s**t"?
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So you are using the fact they 'heavily' speak out about homophobia, corruption etc as a stick to beat them with? That does not make much sense.
It is impossible to be a business of a reasonable size in international markets without hypocrisy.
Just look at pride month, LGBT etc. most international brands ‘use’ it, except in markets where it might cause them difficulty.
How can a major bank have diversity & inclusion teams all over the place, but operate in the Middle East or China
Just look at pride month, LGBT etc. most international brands ‘use’ it, except in markets where it might cause them difficulty.
How can a major bank have diversity & inclusion teams all over the place, but operate in the Middle East or China
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It's not exactly the same no. But drinking a product which also has an advertising campaign like the Brewdog one will raise some awareness and/or make people think.
PS I'm not the fanboy I once was, far from it, I do not even go to my local bar 5 mins walk from my apartment anymore; I'm not defending them per se....more the idea that engagment and protest can coexist.
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I have seen this. If he goes there as a commentator/journo and uses his platform to raise awareness then his argument will be stronger; I doubt he will.
No, I'm saying they're being deeply cynical and playing both ends. I don't believe for a moment that as a corporation they give a flying f*** about homophobia or corruption, they'll take anybody's money as they've proved.
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I feel you're the one being cynical here. Of course they care about homophobia etc even if (maybe) it's in part due to their reputational image. You seem to see this very black and white i.e. a corporation cannot have ethical values.
beorhthelm
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there's different levels. openly attacking a country and event while selling your product in that country and showing that event is gross hypocrisy. they are using the popular distaste for the world cup to promote the brand, virtue signalling to those opposed they are against the event, while profiting from it. othes brands will quietly profit without the contradiction.
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If Ruddles and Old Peculiar counted as good beers back then, things must have been really bleak.
Not cynical, just disappointed. Of course a corporation can have ethical values, but Brewdog quite patently haven't. (Although I accept they may well have started out like that). Now they merely have a, carefully honed, corporate image of being the 'edgy outsiders' hence the current marketing campaign.
No, but that's a completely different point.
It's a thread about Brewdog. I'm accusing Brewdog - not other companies - of rampant hypocrisy.
They're full of sh1t. Always have been.
(As the title of this six-year-old thread alludes to, in fact!)
The Lemming Stomper
Under the flag
Had an E-mail from them a couple of weeks ago with a barcode for a free pint...James Watt giving a long spiel about a little help in these tough times etc etc
Rocked up at the pub to be told by some miserable manager they had 'sold out' and no alternative as computer says no...
Won't bother ever going back
Rocked up at the pub to be told by some miserable manager they had 'sold out' and no alternative as computer says no...
Won't bother ever going back
beorhthelm
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like their gold can promotion, they fib a bit.
wuntbedruv
Imagine
Better than the Watneys Red Barrel in the post I was replying to.
Happily, that's not a standard I can hold it to, having been blissfully ignorant of it until about 5minutes ago. This isn't encouraging though:
"Because Watney’s products were up to 20 percent muck: beer returned from pubs, sludgy stuff from the bottom of tanks and other crap lying around the brewery."
Watney's Red Barrel – how bad could it have been?
You can’t have cops without robbers, or Batman without the Joker, and so British beer needs its bad guys too. Enter Watney’s.
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wuntbedruv
Imagine
Happily, that's not a standard I can hold it to, having been blissfully ignorant of it until about 5minutes ago. This isn't encouraging though:
"Because Watney’s products were up to 20 percent muck: beer returned from pubs, sludgy stuff from the bottom of tanks and other crap lying around the brewery."
God, the past was awful.Watney's Red Barrel – how bad could it have been?
You can’t have cops without robbers, or Batman without the Joker, and so British beer needs its bad guys too. Enter Watney’s.
Happily, that's not a standard I can hold it to, having been blissfully ignorant of it until about 5minutes ago. This isn't encouraging though:
"Because Watney’s products were up to 20 percent muck: beer returned from pubs, sludgy stuff from the bottom of tanks and other crap lying around the brewery."
God, the past was awful.Watney's Red Barrel – how bad could it have been?
You can’t have cops without robbers, or Batman without the Joker, and so British beer needs its bad guys too. Enter Watney’s.
Beer tastes change but it was almost as bad as Long life. The only saving grace of that was it came in cans. Perfect for taking on the coach for away games.
By that logic, baked beans are the perfect drink for the journey to an away game
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wuntbedruv
Imagine
Probably tastier but who lets food get in the way of booze on an away coach.By that logic, baked beans are the perfect drink for the journey to an away game
Eating is for wimps Rodney
vegster
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You forgot Double Diamond and Worthington E .