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[Albion] Brentford - away tickets













Having a 9am free-for-all also favours those with multiple devices, those with faster broadband speeds, the latest IOS and faster fingers.
And all those things you can influence in your favour if you are that bothered enough, but being stuck at the end of a random queue means you are done even before the contest starts - so much for equality of opportunity
 




But doesn't the queuing system give everyone who has logged on, the same opportunity of being number 1 in the queue, and then everyone who isn't number 1, the same opportunity of being number 2 in the queue.....
No it doesn't - there is no equality of opportunity if a random system puts you last. And this could keep happening to you every time you attempt a day 2 chase as well, the system won't remember it's screwed you before.

The hilarious thing is people pretending that the change was to make it more "fair" for fans - be honest, it was made because the club's ticketing system wasn't up to the job and the hamster wheels need to be wound a bit slower otherwise they fell off
 


mile oak

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May 21, 2023
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My reply that you have quoted was an explanation as to why when you go down the points ladder there are more people in a smaller band width. I agree with what you are saying but would not probably call it a vicious circle but more having to do the hard yards. Games like Brentford and Bournemouth in particular are inevitably going to sell quickly with the small numbers available but some London games go a long way down the points tiers e.g. West Ham. I would be interested if you can come up with a solution that does not involve some fans who have been to Newcastle, Manchester(twice) Liverpool etc missing out to someone who is only able, for whatever reason (even through no fault of their own), to make it to one away game.
I don't disagree with what you are saying just it makes it extremely difficult for fans that cant go to many away games to go to games they otherwise could. Appreciate demand is great but having a small pot where fans that are in the lower pots get a say random opportunity to purchase a ticket i believe should be considered, i view this in terms of support and affiliation to a club is not measured solely on money and attendance, in fact the current system doesn't entirely even do that as you actually need to pass through the turnstiles compared to another fans purchasing tickets sae match same value but unwell on day and doesn't pass through turnstile. If you only measure a fan's worth in terms of attendance then carry on regardless.
 


studio150

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No it doesn't - there is no equality of opportunity if a random system puts you last. And this could keep happening to you every time you attempt a day 2 chase as well, the system won't remember it's screwed you before.

The hilarious thing is people pretending that the change was to make it more "fair" for fans - be honest, it was made because the club's ticketing system wasn't up to the job and the hamster wheels need to be wound a bit slower otherwise they fell off
But the odds of coming first or last in the queuing system are equal, which clearly is an an equal opportunity.
 












dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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No it doesn't - there is no equality of opportunity if a random system puts you last. And this could keep happening to you every time you attempt a day 2 chase as well, the system won't remember it's screwed you before.

The hilarious thing is people pretending that the change was to make it more "fair" for fans - be honest, it was made because the club's ticketing system wasn't up to the job and the hamster wheels need to be wound a bit slower otherwise they fell off
Hope you don’t do the lottery.
 


Dave the hatosaurus

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Aug 22, 2021
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I don't disagree with what you are saying just it makes it extremely difficult for fans that cant go to many away games to go to games they otherwise could. Appreciate demand is great but having a small pot where fans that are in the lower pots get a say random opportunity to purchase a ticket i believe should be considered, i view this in terms of support and affiliation to a club is not measured solely on money and attendance, in fact the current system doesn't entirely even do that as you actually need to pass through the turnstiles compared to another fans purchasing tickets sae match same value but unwell on day and doesn't pass through turnstile. If you only measure a fan's worth in terms of attendance then carry on regardless.
I had to think long and hard about whether i should reply to this and on balance thought that i should.
So you start by agreeing that as we both know the points system is not perfect and can be difficult for fans in some situations. You then suggest the valid idea of keeping some tickets back for a lottery of some kind for fans in lower tiers. The problem i can see with this is that i am sure the club would probably be concerned with the administration of such a scheme and how it would work in practice. The next bit i do find somewhat strange as you use something to criticise the current system which has been brought in to considerably improve it. You surely cannot have forgotten the Bournemouth fiasco when many hundreds bought tickets just for the points with no intention of actually going! As one who was not in the top points tier at the time and missed out i know i have not. Finally, and i hope i am wrong about this, it would seem that you are having a pop at me personally by suggesting that i don't value some fellow fans and suggesting that i should "carry on regardless".
 


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