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Madafwo

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Nov 11, 2013
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Another vote for a Panasonic bread maker, I bought mine for my 40th and it's brilliant, as has been said, chuck the ingredients in, set it going or leave it on a delayed start before you go to bed so you wake up in the morning to a freshly baked loaf.

I was absolutely useless at slicing it though, so I ended up buying a food slicer from Argos to get consistent slice widths.

Another positive is I now eat less bread, because despite it being a doddle to make a loaf, sometimes I'm too lazy to even do that.
 




zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
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Sussex, by the sea
Bloody Labour, another thing they've ruined.
Warburtons are tory scum I'll have you know.

Its not bread either.

The reason the sliced ultra processed shit lasts so long is it's full of chemicals and other crap.

fresh bread should be basic cheap and last a day tops.

the shit you buy in the supermarket is arguably dangerous and the prices paid for 'artisan' loaves are madness.

I like a rye loaf, preferably with caraway seeds, but try not to eat much bread these days, I have enough vices as it is.
 


Albion in the north

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Jul 13, 2012
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Ooop North
E920 - (L-Cysteine) - Can be made from human hair, chicken or duck feathers is used by some manufacturers to make their dough rise faster and prolong shelf life. It can also be made synthetically nowadays. Neither Kingsmill or Hovis use it.
 






WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Why is it that all loaves of regular sliced bread (we get Warburtons) are so short date nowadays?

On delivery from any of the supermarkets, it’s usually next day best before, and green within 4-5 days. I don’t remember this being the case in the past… Now I keep it in the freezer and just defrost as needed.

It’s kept where it’s always been kept (cool dark, dry place in kitchen)

I think I may have found the issue.

And if you can't be arsed to go and get bread from a shop, I'm guessing the various solutions around making your own aren't for you :wink:

But if you need motivation to actually go to the shops, what I would say is local shopping helps the whole community. In my (albeit limited) knowledge of the operation of local food banks, the vast majority of bread comes from local bakeries who, to ensure quality, deliver their excess to food banks daily. The food banks also need mass produced 'supermarket' sliced bread in addition, but generally have to pay the supermarkets for this, albeit at a discounted rate.

Buy and eat better quality food and help the community, it's worth the effort :thumbsup:
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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I think I may have found the issue.

And if you can't be arsed to go and get bread from a shop, I'm guessing the various solutions around making your own aren't for you :wink:

But if you need motivation to actually go to the shops, what I would say is local shopping helps the whole community. In my (albeit limited) knowledge of the operation of local food banks, the vast majority of bread comes from local bakeries who, to ensure quality, deliver their excess to food banks daily. The food banks also need mass produced 'supermarket' sliced bread in addition, but generally have to pay the supermarkets for this, albeit at a discounted rate.

Buy and eat better quality food and help the community, it's worth the effort :thumbsup:
Given that I’m spending my time caring for my mother who is getting to the point of needing constant care, I’ll take your condescending post in a constructive way :thumbsup: presently, I can only go out and get food when she’s asleep and less liable to go wandering off to the toilet and potentially falling over.

Incidentally, in Seaford town centre, there is the sum total of ONE independent bakery. I bought some flour baps from them earlier today when I got a chance to go out (to collect my mum’s numerous prescriptions):

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I’m pretty confused. There appears to be just as many ingredients, including eight listed E-numbers.

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Compared to the two listed E-numbers in this 800g Warburton’s loaf.

Incidentally, do you know much about food banks? Because after the country reopened post-COVID I volunteered at one near me three days a week. I have a very good understanding of how they work and who donates and who doesn’t in the area.

Thanks for your post though ;)
 








beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
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Given that I’m spending my time caring for my mother who is getting to the point of needing constant care, I’ll take your condescending post in a constructive way :thumbsup: presently, I can only go out and get food when she’s asleep and less liable to go wandering off to the toilet and potentially falling over.

Incidentally, in Seaford town centre, there is the sum total of ONE independent bakery. I bought some flour baps from them earlier today when I got a chance to go out (to collect my mum’s numerous prescriptions):

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I’m pretty confused. There appears to be just as many ingredients, including eight listed E-numbers.

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Compared to the two listed E-numbers in this 800g Warburton’s loaf.

Incidentally, do you know much about food banks? Because after the country reopened post-COVID I volunteered at one near me three days a week. I have a very good understanding of how they work and who donates and who doesn’t in the area.

Thanks for your post though ;)
wish we could get back to the old ways, couple of sweaty bakers kneading the bread by foot, chuck in some chalk and ground bone to bulk it out and look white.
 




Professor Plum

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Jul 27, 2024
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Given that I’m spending my time caring for my mother who is getting to the point of needing constant care, I’ll take your condescending post in a constructive way :thumbsup: presently, I can only go out and get food when she’s asleep and less liable to go wandering off to the toilet and potentially falling over.

Incidentally, in Seaford town centre, there is the sum total of ONE independent bakery. I bought some flour baps from them earlier today when I got a chance to go out (to collect my mum’s numerous prescriptions):

View attachment 190324

I’m pretty confused. There appears to be just as many ingredients, including eight listed E-numbers.

View attachment 190325

Compared to the two listed E-numbers in this 800g Warburton’s loaf.

Incidentally, do you know much about food banks? Because after the country reopened post-COVID I volunteered at one near me three days a week. I have a very good understanding of how they work and who donates and who doesn’t in the area.

Thanks for your post though ;)
Commiserations regarding the stress of looking after your mum.

Yes, the E numbers and mysterious ingredients in bread was what finally stopped us buying it. Anything in plastic packaging is designed to be kept for several days so is likely to have preservatives. From an independent bakery making bread on the premises you’re likely to have more success with the unpackaged stuff but feel free to ask them.

Sorry to keep banging on about this but making your own is great for having more control over what you’re eating. The bread that comes out of our machine has 3 basic ingredients - flour, water, yeast, and that’s it. Even sugar and salt are optional. I usually add a teaspoon of honey and a dash of olive oil to the mix but nothing else.

If you're at all interested and have a spare few moments, check out bread making on YouTube. There must be thousands of videos on the topic.
 


My mission when shopping is to locate orange stickered products (mainly bakery) marked down products for the Potting larder or freezer. I find this very gratifying.

.......I need to get out more :)
 




WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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Given that I’m spending my time caring for my mother who is getting to the point of needing constant care, I’ll take your condescending post in a constructive way :thumbsup: presently, I can only go out and get food when she’s asleep and less liable to go wandering off to the toilet and potentially falling over.

Incidentally, in Seaford town centre, there is the sum total of ONE independent bakery. I bought some flour baps from them earlier today when I got a chance to go out (to collect my mum’s numerous prescriptions):

View attachment 190324

I’m pretty confused. There appears to be just as many ingredients, including eight listed E-numbers.

View attachment 190325

Compared to the two listed E-numbers in this 800g Warburton’s loaf.

Incidentally, do you know much about food banks? Because after the country reopened post-COVID I volunteered at one near me three days a week. I have a very good understanding of how they work and who donates and who doesn’t in the area.

Thanks for your post though ;)

I'm very sorry to hear about your mother and my post was not intended to be entirely serious, so I'm glad it wasn't taken as such.

The reason I know about food bank suppliers in Brighton is because Mrs Wz has volunteered in them for the last 5 years. Best wishes to you and your mum.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,281
Honestly don’t understand why more people don’t make their own. Loads of recipes that don’t require kneading so 5 minutes 1 day mixing ingredients. 5 minutes next day to whack it in the oven. 40 minutes later it’s done. Saves a fortune and means you don’t have to eat the processed crap that passes for bread in shops.
Used to make my own bread, its very time consuming and you have to think ahead for when you need it. Not brilliant energy wise either as you have to "Proove " your dough for several hours in a warm place/oven. You have to keep your yeast fresh or you will end up with flatbread, many a time I had to throw a lump of dough out as it wouldn't rise and.....half a dozen Granary rolls are only £1.25 in Morrisons and saves hours of work and Gas.
 


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