[News] Braking news - more train strikes over the Christmas period announced

[Acker79]

 

[A1X]

Apologies if fixtures

 

[beorhthelm]

thing is the RMT is running disputes with nationalised Network Rail and Scotrail, alongside the private run train companies. so why isnt iit fair to highlight the role of RMT, who balloted for strikes before any negotiations even started? they wanted industrial action (even said so), have it and will at some point decide to end it with half the issues disappearing. note agreemet with TSSA above, nothing mentioned on many issues RMT say are sticking points.

 

[Bold Seagull]

thing is the RMT is running disputes with nationalised Network Rail and Scotrail, alongside the private run train companies. so why isnt iit fair to highlight the role of RMT, who balloted for strikes before any negotiations even started? they wanted industrial action (even said so), have it and will at some point decide to end it with half the issues disappearing. note agreemet with TSSA above, nothing mentioned on many issues RMT say are sticking points.

Isn't the RMT's dispute with the RDG, which includes Network Rail and Scotrail?

The RMT balloted for strikes before negotiations when Network Rail said thousands of compulsory redundancies were required.

Half the issues may well disappear - because that is what negotiating and compromising is. You don't go into a negotiation saying it's not really a sticking point, it's something we'd just like to have.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I posted the top one in post 191. Robert is particularly interesting because in another of his tweets he says he remembers the bombs and doodlebugs in WW2. which makes him at least 88. A bit old to still be a train driver.

As for StubbsyRN There was a 'Brighton fan' who almost exclusively posted in the Bear Pit and claimed to be ex RN.

StubbsyRN is Baker Lite.

He would very often proudly post about how he was a Union member who would lead picket lines and "fill people in".

 

[Hastings gull]

Unfortunately so many people believe the press, and biased interviews where presenters allow government spokesmen to spout lies, without challenging them.

When these disputes spring up, it is often difficult to properly get to grips with what is really at stake, as you only hear what the politician and on the other side, union militant want you to hear, plus the fact that they are rarely pressed or challenged. As my mate always says -there are 3 sides to every story-your version, my version, and the total truth. By the way you are conistent aren't you? You would feel exactly the same way when Lynch et al are interviewed -wouldn't you? . . .

 

[Zeberdi]

When these disputes spring up, it is often difficult to properly get to grips with what is really at stake, as you only hear what the politician and on the other side, union militant want you to hear, plus the fact that they are rarely pressed or challenged. As my mate always says -there are 3 sides to every story-your version, my version, and the total truth. By the way you are conistent aren't you? You would feel exactly the same way when Lynch et al are interviewed -wouldn't you? . . .

I imagine that has something to do with the nature of news media reporting - nothing more boring than quoting a balanced, middle of the road view in this life and in these days of social media, ‘truth’ is often what who ever shouts the loudest says it is.

 

[beorhthelm]

Isn't the RMT's dispute with the RDG, which includes Network Rail and Scotrail?

The RMT balloted for strikes before negotiations when Network Rail said thousands of compulsory redundancies were required.

Half the issues may well disappear - because that is what negotiating and compromising is. You don't go into a negotiation saying it's not really a sticking point, it's something we'd just like to have.

Network rail might be represented in RDG, they have a seperate dispute. example, the Christmas strikes are covering Network Rail workers, not the train companies - signalmen and engineering will be off but stations would be open, trains would be manned (unable to travel). they've been playing this ping pong between groups to maintain number of strikes with fewer strike days for workers (less money lost). Scotrail is devolved, all Scottish affair which highlights another point, two "governments" involved.

point about the issue disappearing is issues billed as red-lines, safety, concern for passengers evaporate once key pay objectives met. see last two strikes with Southern. DOO is here, ticket offices roles where changed. the service did not end, improved imo until covid.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Train drivers ‘in it for the long haul’ as they vote to continue strikes

Transport secretary refuses to deny reports government stipulation may have scuppered pay deal

www.theguardian.com

well.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

When these disputes spring up, it is often difficult to properly get to grips with what is really at stake, as you only hear what the politician and on the other side, union militant want you to hear, plus the fact that they are rarely pressed or challenged. As my mate always says -there are 3 sides to every story-your version, my version, and the total truth. By the way you are conistent aren't you? You would feel exactly the same way when Lynch et al are interviewed -wouldn't you? . . .

Of course, which is why I listen to politicians, Chief Execs, the union leaders and the actual workers. That way I find out what's really going on.
Yes, I am consistent, as most people on this board will testify.

 

[nordicgod]

Thameslink, southern and Gatwick express have voted to join ASLEF strikes now

 

[GT49er]

Braking news? Yeh, all to do with trains stopping, I suppose.

Any more breaking news about strikes?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Braking news? Yeh, all to do with trains stopping, I suppose.

Any more breaking news about strikes?

Border Force are striking over Christmas affecting airports and ferries.

 

[GT49er]

Border Force are striking over Christmas affecting airports and ferries.

Errmmmm............

 

[The Clamp]

I see the Tory's are building coal mines again. Se we can have another miner's strike?

 

[The Clamp]

Postal workers
Rail workers
Underground rail workers
Nurses
Teachers
GP's
Ambulance crew
Border force workers
Social care workers

All forced to strike so they can afford to feed their families and heat their homes. All hailed as heroes and now decried as enemies by the despicable, lying scum that is the Tory government. The bloody Tory's. May they all rot in agony in Hell.


2022: The year Britain imploded.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I see the Tory's are building coal mines again. Se we can have another miner's strike?

Just another scam

 

[Springal]

Are Southern largely unaffected by the train strikes this week? I thought they were every day except Thursday, but can see services running

 

[jackalbion]

Are Southern largely unaffected by the train strikes this week? I thought they were every day except Thursday, but can see services running

Key routes only on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday

 

[A1X]

Are Southern largely unaffected by the train strikes this week? I thought they were every day except Thursday, but can see services running

They are, it’s just when no Southern train turns up it’s not noteworthy