Bradford City's crowds.....?

[Kukev31]

I think we probaly could survive, Bradford worked it out so they would only do the offer if they got a certain amount of people to sign up, therefore getting the same season-ticket revenue as they would usually. On top of that they get the added concesions, and a far better long term fan base, which clubs often disregard.

And I'm sorry but £25 IS expensive, if it's not to you then it is to a lot of people. Especially paying that every other week. It wasn't long ago that a ticket at the same level would have been about a fiver. Inflation has gone up nowhere near that fast.

 

[redoubtable seagull]

Season tickets started at £138 (until the start of the season) and the club needed 10,000 to make it work financially. They have over 12000 sth, average gates around 13500 and last year they're average gate was abnout 8500.

 

[Brovion]

The interesting thing is it's had a knock-on effect. The 'other' Bradford club, former league side Bradford (Park Avenue) play in Unibond 1. When City annouced their £70 season ticket offer they announced they were dropping their standard per-match admission from £7.50 to £5.00. In addition they've produced 20,000 free tickets for distribution to schools etc.

It should be noted that they (Avenue) have got a new backer, a builder called Bob Blackburn, who is putting money into the club and thus they can afford these gestures.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

I think we probaly could survive, Bradford worked it out so they would only do the offer if they got a certain amount of people to sign up, therefore getting the same season-ticket revenue as they would usually. On top of that they get the added concesions, and a far better long term fan base, which clubs often disregard.

So what would your financial model/assumptions be to get something like this to work at the Albion then based on our current average league gate of 6182?

 

[Storer68]

capacity of the Coral windows stadium (i kid you not) 25,136

price £20 per adult, £10-15 for concessions

 

[Storer68]

errr inflation doesn't go up, just prices.

that would have been true 20 years ago.

how much did we charge in our season at the goldstone? i'm sure it was around a tenner

 

[Hiney]

how much did we charge in our season at the goldstone? i'm sure it was around a tenner

It says £8 on the ticket for the last game

 

[Vicar!]

Wow! Whats the away following like. How many will they bring to Lewes next year??

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

Wow! Whats the away following like. How many will they bring to Lewes next year??

Lewes? If Bradfod City end up doing a Boston surely they'll go into BS(N)?

 

[Lady Whistledown]

The Bradford thing was a great bit of marketing.

They announced at the end of last season that if 10,000 people pledged to buy season tickets by a certain date (presumably July or something like that), they would set prices at a level that would work out at £6 per game.

I don't think they quite reached the target initially, but had more than enough take up to make the scheme workable.

Good luck to them, it's great to see a football club thinking on its feet for once. I'd bet you can't get into any decent Northern non-league clubs for six quid.

 

[Storer68]

The Bradford thing was a great bit of marketing.

They announced at the end of last season that if 10,000 people pledged to buy season tickets by a certain date (presumably July or something like that), they would set prices at a level that would work out at £6 per game.

I don't think they quite reached the target initially, but had more than enough take up to make the scheme workable.

Good luck to them, it's great to see a football club thinking on its feet for once. I'd bet you can't get into any decent Northern non-league clubs for six quid.

Oh I don't know, Im sure that six quid will get you and three mates into Elland Road and still have change for a slap up fish supper

 

[Kenhead]

Sorry I do not agree as in relative terms watching The Albion is not expensive.

It is at the minute with all these mid-week games! We'll have 5 games in the space of 15 days next month, also doing an England U21 game on 16th so i'm hoping we don't get Darlington away in the first round of the cup!!

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

When Grimsby played Rochdale on a Friday night just recently they reduced prices to £10 adults , £5 concessions and kids free with a paying adult. That put another 2,500 on their average attendance figure (Grimsby still lost)

 

[Lord Bracknell]

When Grimsby played Rochdale on a Friday night just recently they reduced prices to £10 adults , £5 concessions and kids free with a paying adult. That put another 2,500 on their average attendance figure (Grimsby still lost)

Grimsby cut their ticket prices by about 40 per cent and added 64 per cent to their average home league crowd this season.

If we did the same, there would be mayhem. We only have the capacity to increase attendances by 49 per cent.

I'm assuming the Leeds turnout represents a capacity crowd and I've ignored it when calculating the average home league crowd so far this season.

 

[BensGrandad]

It is at the minute with all these mid-week games! We'll have 5 games in the space of 15 days next month, also doing an England U21 game on 16th so i'm hoping we don't get Darlington away in the first round of the cup!!

2 things you do not need to go to the England U21s as you support BHA primarily, I hope and we will not draw Darliongton in the 1st round of the cup guaranteed as it is divided north and south, I think. If it isnt it must be very coincidental that no extreme northern league sides ever draw extreme southern league sides.

 

[Yorkie]

It's got nothing to with the stands, and everything to do with the cost.

So that explains Withdean then.

 

[BensGrandad]

Eh? Apart Darlington playing Lewes last season? Or us at Lincoln and Scunthorpe in recent years you mean?

I did say League teams and when did we last play Scunthorpe in the 1st round of the cup. Lincoln/Nottingham area is about the dividing line.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

Lincoln is nearer Brighton than Swansea is.

 

[BensGrandad]

I take it back as I am wrong : Last seasons first round.


Tie no Home team Score Away team Attendance
1 A.F.C. Bournemouth 4-0 Boston United 4,263
2 Wycombe Wanderers 2-1 Oxford United 6,279
3 Peterborough United 3-0 Rotherham United 4,281
4 Torquay United 2-1 Leatherhead 2,218
5 Morecambe 2-1 Kidderminster Harriers 1,673
6 Tranmere Rovers 4-2 Woking 4,591
7 Salisbury City 3-0 Fleetwood Town 2,684
8 Chelmsford City 1-1 Aldershot Town 2,838
replay Aldershot Town 2-0 Chelmsford City 2,731 (21 November)
9 Weymouth 2-2 Bury 2,503
replay Bury 4-3 Weymouth 2,231 (21 November)
10 Nottingham Forest 5-0 Yeading 7,704
11 Stafford Rangers 1-1 Maidenhead United 1,526
replay Maidenhead United 0-2 Stafford Rangers 1,934 (21 November)
12 Shrewsbury Town 0-0 Hereford United 5,574
replay Hereford United 2-0 Shrewsbury Town 4,224 (21 November)
13 Northampton Town 0-0 Grimsby Town 4,092
replay Grimsby Town 0-2 Northampton Town 2,657 (21 November)
14 Wrexham 1-0 Stevenage Borough 2,863
15 Chesterfield 0-1 Basingstoke Town 3,539
16 Gainsborough Trinity 1-3 Barnet 1,914
17 Lewes 1-4 Darlington 2,000
18 Clevedon Town 1-4 Chester City 2,261
19 Barrow 2-3 Bristol Rovers 2,939
20 Rushden & Diamonds 3-1 Yeovil Town 2,530
21 Burton Albion 1-2 Tamworth 4,150
22 Farsley Celtic 0-0 Milton Keynes Dons 2,200
replay Milton Keynes Dons 2-0 Farsley Celtic 2,676 (21 November)
23 Brentford 0-1 Doncaster Rovers 3,607
24 Gillingham 4-1 Bromley 5,547
25 York City 0-1 Bristol City 3,525
26 Bishop's Stortford 3-5 King's Lynn 1,750
27 Exeter City 1-2 Stockport County 4,454
28 Newport County 1-3 Swansea City 4,660
29 Kettering Town 3-4 Oldham Athletic 3,481
30 Rochdale 1-1 Hartlepool United 2,098
replay Hartlepool United 0-0 Rochdale 2,788 (20 November)
Hartlepool United won 4-2 on penalties
31 Brighton & Hove Albion 8-0 Northwich Victoria 4,487
32 Mansfield Town 1-0 Accrington Stanley 3,909
33 Cheltenham Town 0-0 Scunthorpe United 2,721
replay Scunthorpe United 2-0 Cheltenham Town 3,074 (21 November)
34 Macclesfield Town 0-0 Walsall 2,018
replay Walsall 0-1 Macclesfield Town 3,114 (21 November)
35 Bradford City 4-0 Crewe Alexandra 3,483
36 Leyton Orient 2-1 Notts County 3,011
37 Swindon Town 3-1 Carlisle United 4,938
38 Huddersfield Town 0-1 Blackpool 6,597
39 Havant & Waterlooville 1-2 Millwall 5,793 (played at Portsmouth)
40 Port Vale 2-1 Lincoln City 3,884


I have mis read it I was always under the impression that it was divided for the 1st round so even at my age you can learn something.