Yeah, I think it would require a few clubs (at least) to club their data together in order to persuade others to join in. I'm unclear where they'd stand legally in terms of privacy/data protection though...
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Yeah, I think it would require a few clubs (at least) to club their data together in order to persuade others to join in. I'm unclear where they'd stand legally in terms of privacy/data protection though...
If the club couldn't be bothered with the Barnet game at the Amex (can anyone definitively say?) then they're not showing any concern in trying to police the system at all.
But the Barnet ticket selling info stated that attendance was required for points. To then ignore that and issue points to all ticket purchasers regardless of attendance would be poor form.
(Note: I'm not stating that did happen, but some are suggesting it did)
nail-Z
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You managed to get your Barnet ticket scanned then?
I didn't buy one. I'm FUMING!
That can be the only mitigation for them not enforcing their own rule. Easy few grand.
studio150
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Full ID check outside Bournemouth gates for this game to ensure ticket hasn't been sold on, plus a tick against your name for loyalty points.
Albion Robster
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No scan - no points !!
.... Bournemouth want as many people as possible to buy tickets. They really won't be doing that !
Sorry
Worthing exile
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How about charging £30 a ticket but getting a £20 off voucher against shop or future tickets if you actually attend?
Taybha
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How about not being a selfish fukka and not buying a ticket if you have no intention of going .
jonny.rainbow
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I won't. Tempting as it is as I may slip into the third tier for some upcoming aways, I just feel it is wrong.
The club have got this 'loyalty' system wrong.
That's the problem isn't it. I know people who bought Barnet tickets purely for the points because they feel they will slip down a level for away games. It's a poor system that encourages this kind of understandable (but objectionable) behaviour. Now that people expect to get points even if they don't use the ticket - more will do this. And thus the points system is irretrievably broken.
- Aug 8, 2005
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In a nutshell, this.
Gazwag
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I have seen a post somewhere (facebook) I think that somebody got points for Barnet who didn't attend the game. It should be easy for the club to allocate to those who attend, when the smart cards could be used to buy stuff you could log in and see to the exact second that you entered the ground for each match so the technology is certainly there.
I remember bringing the point up on a thread before about the away club providing the details but it was suggested that data protection would prevent this. Surely a csv file could be downloaded and emailed onto bhafc and an office junior import it into excel and cross match the attendees. Although that said it is plucky Bournemouth, not sure if computer have reached their ground yet.
If you buy a ticket and don't attend, I thought you were not allocated points. Is that true please?
- Aug 8, 2005
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Officially this is what the club say. I've never done it so couldn't tell you if this is true. But some have said on here that they acquired for Barnet, didn't attend, but still got the points. No idea whether that is true either.
SUA Seagull
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Is actually the right answer.
I have some sympathy with the club in terms of the potential challenges/costs they face in policing this issue.
1. Any form of checking ticket scans would require (i) for home games, Albion to review a list of 10,000+ fans’ purchase records versus tickets actually scanned at the Amex, and (ii) for away games, the home club to provide Albion with a list of up to ~3,000 Albion fans’ tickets scanned which Albion would then have to check against fans’ purchase records. That’s all likely to take the club quite a bit of time (and cost) to monitor.
2. Such a policy may even deter some fans from buying tickets in the first place for some of the “less fashionable” games which both the Albion’s and away clubs’ sales teams will be keen to avoid.
3. What happens, for example, if there’s a genuine fan no show (illness, stuck on the M25, stuck at work, Southern Fail train stuck en route) as averse to someone simply harvesting loyalty points who has no intention of attending a game? The club won’t want to spend even more time (and money) becoming bogged down in individual disputes.
4. In theory, this problem should only ever arise in early round cup games where demand is low and Albion may not be fielding its A-team, which is only ever going to apply to a maximum of a couple of matches each season.
5. The club’s own LP T&Cs ambiguously state, on the one hand, that LPs will be awarded “when you make an advance ticket purchase” and, on the other, "for matches that you purchase and attend”.
On the basis of the above, one can perhaps understand why the club might feel disinclined to “get too involved” and so the current policy effectively leaves it to the fans to “do the right thing”, as [MENTION=12422]Taybha[/MENTION] rightly suggests.
A simplification of the system is perhaps needed which deters the potential for abuse. The tickets for some of these “early round” cup games are incredibly cheap (especially for kids) and then one gets decent LPs on top – and that’s what creates the issue.
Maybe one possibility could be to stick with the cheap tickets to create sales’ demand but only offer 5 LPs for such ties? It would be interesting to know what effect on ticket sales a low price/low LP combination would have versus the current arrangements.