Stumpy Tim
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Being generous, Villa may get 7 more points and Bournemouth 10 points. So we would need 4 points
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[Football] Bottom 6 remaining games
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Stephen Seagull
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We'll be starting the "Teams that can't catch us" thread soon
Being extremely generous! Villa have Wolves, Liverpool, Man Utd, Palace, Everton, Arsenal and West Ham? Which two do you think they'll win?
As for Bournemouth, they've got Newcastle, Man Utd, Spurs, Leicester, Man City, Southampton and Everton. Which 3 of those do you think they can win based on current form?
Personally think that neither Villa or Bournemouth will pick up 7 pts which effectively means we have enough in the bag. Bit like two years ago when we beat Man Utd to confirm our safety but in reality, we had enough after we had beaten Arsenal on the 4th March, we just didn't know it at the time.
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nwgull
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Being very generous to Bournemouth there. And even if it did happen, the chances of both Watford and West Ham also getting 10 points are minimal.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Villa may well turn over Champion hangover suffering Liverpool.
Machiavelli
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Why would you want to be generous to Villa and Muff when they can't even be generous to themselves?
Official Old Man
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I must have had too much time on my hands. I've a full spreadsheet with games remaining.
Then I've got the table, points, max points, points other teams need to go above us (I've added one to each team to take our GD into account). Then there is a table of the games each team have to play each other which takes into account that ie Watford West Ham cant both get 3 points.
Then I went and had a beer. It looks pretty good.
Then I've got the table, points, max points, points other teams need to go above us (I've added one to each team to take our GD into account). Then there is a table of the games each team have to play each other which takes into account that ie Watford West Ham cant both get 3 points.
Then I went and had a beer. It looks pretty good.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Even in our poor winless run from the start of this year we picked up 4 points from 7 games. No way playing with a bit of confidence and fight are we going the next 7 without a decent clutch of points.
I’m that way inclined but after these 2 opening rounds of return games I’ve already started to look at who is above us that can be caught rather than who is below.
I’m that way inclined but after these 2 opening rounds of return games I’ve already started to look at who is above us that can be caught rather than who is below.
So have I. In fact I was going to start a thread asking how high we could feasibly finish. We are 15th, we might catch Southampton although 4 points is a huge total to make up at this stage of the season for bottom half teams. I don't think we can overhaul Newcastle as they are six points clear.
Meanwhile I'm loving the fact that you can bet your arse that on similar threads on the forums of clubs below us, I doubt our fixture list even features - certainly not on the Norwich one anyway. It would have to be a monumental collapse to see us dragged back in. Possible, but I don't see it and neither do the bookies as our relegation odds lengthen by the day - now 22/1.
Well, I'm not the one who posted it but I think they'll beat Palace and West Ham (and get a draw with Everton). I think Villa look more up for a fight than Bournemouth or Hammers do
Who cares? You'd expect a club in the relegation zone to be saying the same thing as motivation. It's in our hands so just get on with it get the points and we're good
The more recent posts on their 'Relegation thread' don't even talk about us......................
https://www.villatalk.com/topic/19927-relegation-thread/page/62/
In 61 pages I'm sure it's been said, but this really is a contest to see who's the most useless / spineless out of us, West Ham, Watford and Bournemouth, and no-one's doing themselves any favours right now.
Remaining games...
Us: Wolves, Liverpool, Man U, Palace, Everton, Arsenal, West Ham
Bournemouth: Newcastle, Man U, Spurs, Leicester, Man City, Southampton, Everton
West Ham: Chelsea, Newcastle, Burnley, Norwich, Watford, Man U, Villa
Watford: Southampton, Chelsea, Norwich, Newcastle, West Ham, Man City, Arsenal
From that list I'd say Bournemouth are in deep trouble if they don't get something from Newcastle. West Ham and Watford run ins look easier but assuming Norwich don't give up completely, a lot of those teams still have everything to play for.
Ironically Steve Bruce could indirectly decide the whole thing. C'mon Brucey, we love you really.
Possibly.
...and sample posts after our game v Leicester....
Watched both Brighton games. They could easily have got 0 points from those games but they dug in and snatched 4. Very impressive. That’s just not in our locker I’m afraid.
**** off Brighton, you seagull loving words removed.
A team saved by lockdown it seems so Norwich , Us and a three horse race for the last spot ...
That puts even more pressure on tomorrow. Hope Smith has the bottle!
Good battling draw for Brighton there - they even might be slightly miffed not to have won.
Wish our squad showed the same resolve and determination.
That gap above the bottom 3 is starting to look comfortable for the Seagulls now.
FatSuperman
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I reckon you had too much sun yesterday, not only are Villa shit, bar Grealish and Mcginn, they have John Terry as assistant manager.
Plus Liverpool want to beat City's 100 point tally.
You'd get very long odds on Villa to beat Liverpool.
If we can beat Norwich, then it starts to become a very hard ask for 3 of the bottom 5 to catch us.
I'm actually more anxious about that game than Arsenal, Foxes & Man Utd. Those felt like free hits, this is our real must-win of Tournament Restart. Although that's been slightly reduced by our superb 4pts to date, it's still the game we really need to be getting 3pts from to put an end to any doubt. Which creates that nervous anticipation and fear...
I'm actually more anxious about that game than Arsenal, Foxes & Man Utd. Those felt like free hits, this is our real must-win of Tournament Restart. Although that's been slightly reduced by our superb 4pts to date, it's still the game we really need to be getting 3pts from to put an end to any doubt. Which creates that nervous anticipation and fear...
nwgull
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Norwich is not a must-win game.
I’m with Drew on this and think we may already be clear.
With 7 games to play Villa, B’muff and Hammers need to bag 7 points to get above us. This is without our getting any more points – this is Brighton so it’s possible. Let’s assume the worst.
To do this they can either:
• Draw 7/7 – not realistic so ignore
• Win 1, draw 4, lose 2 – Win points from 5 out of 7 games.
• Win 2, draw 1, lose 4 – Win points from 3 out of 7 games.
Watford need 6 which is marginally easier.
For us to go down, 3 of those 4 teams have to get that amount of points. A tall order.
Is that realistic? I don’t think so based on their recent form. Although Watford and WHam could do it.
And that’s before looking at any top table opponents and 6-point games.
I also think, like last year, we’ll grab some points along the way and get well clear.
Relegation odds of 22/1 don’t look that inviting to me, but what do I know?
Icy Gull
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Of all our remaining games I would suggest it is. Win that and we’ll probably be there. I expect us to lose it though.
It is nowhere close to being a must win game. Burnley could end up being must win on the last day, but let's not contemplate that just yet.
Anyway, a win over Man Utd and we should be ok.