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[Technology] Bottle lids that don’t come off bottles



Guinness Boy

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In other package-related news, an old lady in front of me in offie the other day was angrily demanding a refund for her husband's 4 pack of lager. Claimed they were superglued together. It was one of these new-fangled jobbies that does away with the plastic ring that normally keeps the cans together. Environmental something something. There's definitely an art to seperating the new packs. Her husband didn't have that art. He'd messily poured the first can while it was still attached to the other three. Then sent his missus along to demand a refund on the three unopened cans still attached to the empty can :lolol:
This almost feels like an entire sub-forum; “advice for middle aged men who can’t open drinks containers”.
 




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In other packaging-related news... an old lady in front of me in offie the other day was angrily demanding a refund for her husband's 4 pack of lager. Claimed they were superglued together. It was one of these new-fangled jobbies that does away with the plastic ring that normally keeps the cans together. Environmental something something. There's definitely an art to seperating the new packs. Her husband didn't have that art. He'd messily poured the first can while it was still attached to the other three. Then sent his missus along to demand a refund on the three unopened cans still attached to the empty can :lolol:
I am totally assuming that this "old lady" was your wife. :lolol:
 




BrightonCottager

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If I ever come across the latte-sucking, ponytailed, red-framed glasses wearing vegan GOON who 'workshopped' this piece of shit, I will forcibly drag him into the street by his hair and beat him to death with his own shoes, in front of his family.
I'll pass your comments on to the non- ponytailed, non-lattesucking, non-ponytailed, non -glasses wearing, non-vegan woman who had a role in the development of this in a global attempt to reduce plastic waste in the world's oceans and beaches.

80% of plastic waste in the ocean comes from the land and I've noticed a significant reduction in bottle caps on Brighton beach since its introduction, just like how plastic bags virtually disappeared overnight after the introduction of the charge. Brightly coloured bottle tops are just the right size for ingestion by a variety of marine animals and being small are often missed by beachcleaners and then get into the sea for centuries.

It was difficult enough to get drinks manufacturers to accept the principle of them, and they've (specifically Coke - which has been copied lots of others) managed to stuff up the design.
 






MTSeagulls

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Of course it's a first world problem. Doesn't stop things from being discussed and being amusing in a Grumpy Old Men kind of way.
If all we are allowed to discuss is war, pestilence and famine without that being bandied around every time this would be a pretty depressing place like the rest of social media.
 




bhafc99

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And while I'm on...bacon packaging, with that "peelable corner" - f*ck off. Thats about as peelable as the hull of the Ark Royal.

Amusing that after the OP’s Farage rant, this is the latest thing that seems to be annoying the gammon bots on X.

Is this a case of gammon struggling to open gammon?
 




Berty23

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I see people struggling to drink out of the bottles with a lid attached. Do this.
 


HeaviestTed

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The problem with the bottle tops being attached is the same as switching to renewable energy, the people who did it are bad at marketing.

If the switch to renewable energy hadn’t ever mentioned climate change and just said “there is a new way we can fuel our cars that stops us sending money to opec and instead invests it in the our own country and bring down fuel costs” then I think there is no argument.

If the drinks companies had produced the attached lids but made them in very small quantities then people would have gone made trying to get them (like queues of people for prime) then after 6 months switch to only those bottle tops people would have desired them instead of getting angry over “bloody green policies”
 


Bansko Seagull

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And while I'm on...bacon packaging, with that "peelable corner" - f*ck off. Thats about as peelable as the hull of the Ark Royal. NOBODY is opening that packet without hacking it to bits with a serrated kitchen knife.

We are doomed, as a species.
And (in my opinion) even worse are plastic trays- recyclable- with film lids which are not recyclable AND never removable
 




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If we could just invent a drinks straw that doesn’t last a million years but lasts more than 4 seconds, that’d do me.
 


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I know the rule is across the EPL so we don't really have a choice and we know it's to make it harder to lob the bottles on to the pitch. However, I was in WSL for the friendly and in the self serve area they sell cartons of water, ie no lid can be taken off. For those of that persuasion, a formidable missile!!
 


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I'll pass your comments on to the non- ponytailed, non-lattesucking, non-ponytailed, non -glasses wearing, non-vegan woman who had a role in the development of this in a global attempt to reduce plastic waste in the world's oceans and beaches.

80% of plastic waste in the ocean comes from the land and I've noticed a significant reduction in bottle caps on Brighton beach since its introduction, just like how plastic bags virtually disappeared overnight after the introduction of the charge. Brightly coloured bottle tops are just the right size for ingestion by a variety of marine animals and being small are often missed by beachcleaners and then get into the sea for centuries.

It was difficult enough to get drinks manufacturers to accept the principle of them, and they've (specifically Coke - which has been copied lots of others) managed to stuff up the design.
To be clear, I'm not anti attached bottle lids per-se.
I just want them to design ones that actually work PROPERLY, without having to fiddle-fart arse around with them for ten minutes only for them to leak anyway.
 




METALMICKY

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But wierdly they have cracked it for cheese slices 🤷‍♂️

And don't get me started on 'resealable' pasta packets !
Yes but that's a cunning plan for when you come across those cheese slices that stick together and fragment even if you resort to trying to slide a knife down to separate :(
 


mile oak

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I know the rule is across the EPL so we don't really have a choice and we know it's to make it harder to lob the bottles on to the pitch. However, I was in WSL for the friendly and in the self serve area they sell cartons of water, ie no lid can be taken off. For those of that persuasion, a formidable missile!!
I always find it OTT taking bottle tops off as lots of people will have loose change we don't get asked to empty that upon entry to the ground.
 


chaileyjem

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Just let the kids at the Amex do it. Lid safely removed when I had my first Diet Coke on Saturday.
 


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And while I'm on...bacon packaging, with that "peelable corner" - f*ck off. Thats about as peelable as the hull of the Ark Royal. NOBODY is opening that packet without hacking it to bits with a serrated kitchen knife.

We are doomed, as a species.
Very similar to recyclable wrapping paper of a certain sort. Peeling off the sticky bit is a nightmare.
 




Giraffe

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To be clear, I'm not anti attached bottle lids per-se.
I just want them to design ones that actually work PROPERLY, without having to fiddle-fart arse around with them for ten minutes only for them to leak anyway.
This. I get why, just would like to be better. Some are not as bad as others, so it can be done!
 


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