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[Politics] Boris Johnson, the new UK Prime Minister







Herr Tubthumper

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What is your agenda for wanting the EU to crush the PM?
Just wondering.

The EU versus Boris Johnson ....who did you think I was going to side with?
 


Gwylan

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As Alistair Campbell has pointed out, Johnson is deliberately crashing and burning in order to force an early election

That doesn't make any sense. If he wants an election he could easily say "I think it's only fair that the British public should have a say in who is prime minister. Unlike Gordon Brown, who replaced Tony Blair in a cosy arrangement, hatched in an Islington restaurant, I believe the people are our masters. I therefore call on the opposition in supporting a motion for the early dissolution of parliament and a general election to be held in early September."

That would give him an early election AND the moral high ground over Labour.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Again, that's a great pity that you can't root for the correct side.

Boris has put his tanks on the lawn. He clearly wants a fight. And he wants a fight with his own party, the opposition, his country and the EU. If he wants a fight he can have one. Yes, I have chosen the correct side.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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If Labour do not urgently do something, then they are utterly complicit in this appalling shit show.

Jezza has to go if there is any danger of them winning.

Or maybe they should film a bunch of 12 year olds singing his name to show he means business
 




BLOCK F

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The EU versus Boris Johnson ....who did you think I was going to side with?

But why? That was the point of my question, HT.
What can be gained by the EU crushing the British PM ?
Would you feel the same if Corbyn was in the hot seat versus the EU?
 


*Gullsworth*

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Jezza has to go if there is any danger of them winning.

Or maybe they should film a bunch of 12 year olds singing his name to show he means business

I'm not so sure. Mays Parting shot towards Corbyn signals the Tories fear of him becoming an electable alternative to Boris. Surely if they didn't fear him they wouldn't suggest he resign. I am not a Corbyn fan but a lot of his rivals are running scared he may just gather enough support to put him in power.
 


Ernest

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You're spectacularly missing the point. I'm not attacking Corbyn on this occasion, I am pointing out the stark reality that Labour will not get in and will not beat Johnson in a general election. People like you seem happy to take your chances with Corbyn? Why? He can't win, not with the machine that is the pro-Brexit right wing press full square behind Johnson, however inept he may be.

Let's flip it on it's head. Do you honestly see Corbyn defeating Johnson in a GE? Honestly?

Johnson will defeat Johnson, but Corbyn would beat Johnson in an election
 




ROKERITE

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But why? That was the point of my question, HT.
What can be gained by the EU crushing the British PM ?
Would you feel the same if Corbyn was in the hot seat versus the EU?

Brexit has revealed that there are millions in this country who would rather be proved right and see us scurrying back to the failing EU than see The UK thriving as a sovereign nation.
Boris is talking this country up and that appals the doom-mongers.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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But why? That was the point of my question, HT.
What can be gained by the EU crushing the British PM ?
Would you feel the same if Corbyn was in the hot seat versus the EU?

Simple. Because Boris is an arrogant, self-centred, homophobic, misogynistic, racist, bullying scumbag who only cares about himself. I don’t like people like this and I feel he needs to be taught a lesson.

And no, I wouldn’t feel the same if Corbyn, or even Jeremy Hunt was in the hot seat. Just like I didn’t when May was in charge.
 


BLOCK F

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I'm not so sure. Mays Parting shot towards Corbyn signals the Tories fear of him becoming an electable alternative to Boris. Surely if they didn't fear him they wouldn't suggest he resign. I am not a Corbyn fan but a lot of his rivals are running scared he may just gather enough support to put him in power.

We live in pretty strange times, so nobody knows what the hell may happen next in the world of politics.
However, I think the fear of Corbyn , is not because of his political brilliance(ahem!), but based on a genuine concern over what a far left Government would do to the economy of this country. Add in his tendency to side with the country's enemies, his lack of intellect, the caucus of extremist advisors pulling his strings, lack of leadership, indecision,intolerance of more moderate views within the party etc.
These fears are genuinely felt by many traditional Labour voters as well as supporters of other parties. I should also add moderate Labour MP's to that list.
Until Corbyn and McDonnell are replaced with more centrist leaders, many will fear Labour, and by that I don't just mean the Tories and their supporters.
I am a Tory voter, but hope and pray that Labour comes to its senses and once again returns to being the decent party it once was.
 






Happy Exile

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Boris is talking this country up and that appals the doom-mongers.

I dunno. What appals me is not enough people are prepared to be called a doom-monger for questioning his baseless optimism that's being delivered without a shred of evidence or any foundation in reality or likelihood to influence outcomes. I'd argue its more patriotic to question that and the headlong charge to insignificance than go along with it. I like this country and its people far too much than to blindly accept what Boris and his chums are doing to it.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Brexit has revealed that there are millions in this country who would rather be proved right and see us scurrying back to the failing EU than see The UK thriving as a sovereign nation.
Boris is talking this country up and that appals the doom-mongers.

You’ve hit the nail on the head here. Yes, he is talking the country up. But it’s just hollow nonsense as it always is with him; his words are cheap.....that’s when they’re not offensive of course.
 






ROKERITE

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I'm not so sure. Mays Parting shot towards Corbyn signals the Tories fear of him becoming an electable alternative to Boris. Surely if they didn't fear him they wouldn't suggest he resign. I am not a Corbyn fan but a lot of his rivals are running scared he may just gather enough support to put him in power.

Corbyn's popularity has been waning since his heady days of 2017 and early 2018. The Tories would be a lot more fearful of someone like Starmer leading Labour.
As a Tory voter myself now that Boris has replaced the feeble Mrs May I hope Corbyn remains at the helm.
 




Chicken Run

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I dunno. What appals me is not enough people are prepared to be called a doom-monger for questioning his baseless optimism that's being delivered without a shred of evidence or any foundation in reality or likelihood to influence outcomes. I'd argue its more patriotic to question that and the headlong charge to insignificance than go along with it. I like this country and its people far too much than to blindly accept what Boris and his chums are doing to it.

What are they doing to it? Genuine question.
 








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