Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Exactly the same here... But in this case they were (fairly) posted on here so I had to see them! So much drivel is written these days and social media etc give these idiots the platform.
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[Albion] Bong being abused all game.
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Exactly the same here... But in this case they were (fairly) posted on here so I had to see them! So much drivel is written these days and social media etc give these idiots the platform.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Agreed.....this is one 'away' poster who used to have some credibility on here...i think in the eyes of many he's lost all of that
Hillian1
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Here we are. Unbelievable.
https://twitter.com/AndyNaylorArgus/status/991219189519126528
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Tweeting Seagull
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- Mar 27, 2018
- 113
Hope Burnley or the FSF denounce this guy. Shameful indeed.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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At least this guy is one individual idiot and isn't in any way in a position where it would appear as if he is representing a collective view.
Oh.
Hillian1
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Of course it's Bongs fault, if he'd have stayed in his own country none of this would have happened.
Obvious when you look at it through Burnley's eyes really.
Obvious when you look at it through Burnley's eyes really.
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
Another little of piece of me just died.
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
With all the media attention this is getting again it'll be interesting to see how the Man Utd fans behave on Friday night. Let's hope they show a lot more class than their Lancastrian neighbors.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
And on that thread on twitter there are still Burnley fans claiming Rodriguez was cleared. sigh.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
I'd expect Lukaku to try and kick him in the nuts. Twice.
Until a Burnley fan posted it yesterday, I wasn't aware that there were only two possible verdicts, proven and not proven. Therefore not proven is the same as being cleared. If it isn't then how can he be cleared or should he forever more be thought of as an unproven racist?
No - the difference is in the detail. The FA went on in their statement to make it quite clear that they considered Bong had acted in complete good faith. That is - they didn't 'not believe him', they could not really make a decision either way. If they had intended JR to be 'cleared', they would have said something like 'we find the complaint to be unsubstantiated', or 'we are of the opinion that JR did not say the words he was accused of saying'. They were very very far off saying that.
I think the verdict has to be read in conjunction with the notes explaining the verdict. The notes clear Bong of any wrong-doing, but cannot say whether Jay did say racist comments or not, so it is not proven. We have to give him the benefit of the doubt, and should not give him any abuse the next time he visits the Amex.
Hungry Joe
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It's a tricky one for sure. Unlike criminal courts the FA Panel are not there to judge a defendant as being guilty or not guilty, they are there to try and establish, based on the burden of proof available, whether a case can be proved or not, and then apply an appropriate sanction. This does leave a 'not proven' verdict open to interpretation that a not guilty verdict wouldn't be. That's why I have stated that I can understand why JR has taken it as being cleared, especially if he is so indignant because it was genuinely a case of being misheard. As has been said ad nauseum though, there's only one person in the world who really knows if that is the case or not.
aolstudios
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On this thread. He absolutely is
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studio150
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aolstudios
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Jesus