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AdrianDINho said:Bit weird its happened after Pakistan are out of the World Cup
Probably stress related (suspected heartache)
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Bob Woolmer R.I.P
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Probably stress related (suspected heartache)
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Buffalo Seagull said:
I couldn't help think that myself as the Pakistan fans are pissed off they got knocked out.
I really hope there was no foul play (I doubt there was though)
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First of all, very sad - in danger of overshadowing a tournament that with last night's games had caught fire. Very good and widely respected player and coach, big loss.
Tempting (and slightly tasteless) as it is to immediately start speculating about foul play, far more likely a 58-year-old bloke who is no longer the thinnest just had his heart give up on him under extreme stress not only of this defeat but of the gruelling travel schedule from his South Africa home.
He said post-match on Saturday that it was all taking a heavy toll. How sadly prophetic those words have tuned out to be. And I don't think the Pakistanis burning effigies of him last night should be feeling great at this moment either.
Tempting (and slightly tasteless) as it is to immediately start speculating about foul play, far more likely a 58-year-old bloke who is no longer the thinnest just had his heart give up on him under extreme stress not only of this defeat but of the gruelling travel schedule from his South Africa home.
He said post-match on Saturday that it was all taking a heavy toll. How sadly prophetic those words have tuned out to be. And I don't think the Pakistanis burning effigies of him last night should be feeling great at this moment either.
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Bob Woolmer, the Pakistan coach, has died in a Kingston hospital after being found unconscious in his hotel room hours after his side's elimination from the World Cup. "Bob Woolmer died in hospital," a team spokesman told reporters. He was 58.
Although Woolmer played 19 Tests for England, it was as an international coach that he really made his mark, first with South Africa and then, after a spell as the ICC's High Performance Manager, with Pakistan.
Born in India, Woolmer made his mark in a strong Kent side in the 1970s as an allrounder, a pugnacious middle-order batsman and medium-paced seamer. Although his England career was just getting started when he joined World Series Cricket, like so many who threw in their lot with Kerry Packer, when he returned he was not the player he had been.
Called up to an England side in crisis in 1975, in only his second Test he staged a great rearguard innings to save his side when they followed on against Australia, holding out for 499 minutes against Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thomson to score 149. Although he added two more hundreds, also against Australia, World Series Cricket checked his career in 1977, and he effectively ended it forever by joining the rebel South African tour of 1981-82.
His coaching career started at Warwickshire, and he immediately made an impact as the county won a string of trophies in the early 1990s. That led to him being appointed by South Africa in 1994.
As a coach, his pioneering use of computers to show, for example, where opposing batsmen scored their runs may have stemmed from an experience of his own, batting against Mike Brearley's Middlesex. "Knowing I liked the cover-drive, he had Mike Selvey bowling at me wide of off stump, with two slips and two gulleys. In 45 minutes, I scored 12. Then I chased another wide one from Selvey and was caught at second slip."
In the 1996 World Cup, Graeme Hick was a notable victim of Woolmer's computer-based analysis, which revealed that if Hick could be kept scoreless for a spell, he tended to flick an off-stump ball in the air to midwicket. The trap was sprung by Fanie de Villiers, and Brian McMillan took the catch.
Woolmer was creative and adventurous. But his coaching was based on a simple premise: the more enjoyable he could make the game, the better his players would respond. No two fielding practices were alike when Woolmer was in charge.
After a spell as the ICC's high-performance manager, he was announced as Pakistan's new coach in June 2004, and signed a contract to remain in charge until the 2007 World Cup. However, Pakistan's form leading up to the tournament was poor, and when they lost their first two matches - the second to Ireland - it appeared unlikely that his tenure would be extended. He had been mentioned as a possible successor to Duncan Fletcher as England coach.
He made 1059 runs at 33.09 in Tests, with three hundreds, and also took four wickets at 74.75. In all first-class cricket, mainly with Kent but also in South African state cricket, he scored 15772 runs at 33.55 and took 420 wickets at 25.87.
Although Woolmer played 19 Tests for England, it was as an international coach that he really made his mark, first with South Africa and then, after a spell as the ICC's High Performance Manager, with Pakistan.
Born in India, Woolmer made his mark in a strong Kent side in the 1970s as an allrounder, a pugnacious middle-order batsman and medium-paced seamer. Although his England career was just getting started when he joined World Series Cricket, like so many who threw in their lot with Kerry Packer, when he returned he was not the player he had been.
Called up to an England side in crisis in 1975, in only his second Test he staged a great rearguard innings to save his side when they followed on against Australia, holding out for 499 minutes against Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thomson to score 149. Although he added two more hundreds, also against Australia, World Series Cricket checked his career in 1977, and he effectively ended it forever by joining the rebel South African tour of 1981-82.
His coaching career started at Warwickshire, and he immediately made an impact as the county won a string of trophies in the early 1990s. That led to him being appointed by South Africa in 1994.
As a coach, his pioneering use of computers to show, for example, where opposing batsmen scored their runs may have stemmed from an experience of his own, batting against Mike Brearley's Middlesex. "Knowing I liked the cover-drive, he had Mike Selvey bowling at me wide of off stump, with two slips and two gulleys. In 45 minutes, I scored 12. Then I chased another wide one from Selvey and was caught at second slip."
In the 1996 World Cup, Graeme Hick was a notable victim of Woolmer's computer-based analysis, which revealed that if Hick could be kept scoreless for a spell, he tended to flick an off-stump ball in the air to midwicket. The trap was sprung by Fanie de Villiers, and Brian McMillan took the catch.
Woolmer was creative and adventurous. But his coaching was based on a simple premise: the more enjoyable he could make the game, the better his players would respond. No two fielding practices were alike when Woolmer was in charge.
After a spell as the ICC's high-performance manager, he was announced as Pakistan's new coach in June 2004, and signed a contract to remain in charge until the 2007 World Cup. However, Pakistan's form leading up to the tournament was poor, and when they lost their first two matches - the second to Ireland - it appeared unlikely that his tenure would be extended. He had been mentioned as a possible successor to Duncan Fletcher as England coach.
He made 1059 runs at 33.09 in Tests, with three hundreds, and also took four wickets at 74.75. In all first-class cricket, mainly with Kent but also in South African state cricket, he scored 15772 runs at 33.55 and took 420 wickets at 25.87.
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Very sad, a great servant to the game of cricket. RIP Bob.
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Very sad news indeed. RIP Bob.
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Was he the Warwickshire coach when they beat Sussex in the NatWest final at Lords?
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AdrianDINho said:Bit weird its happened after Pakistan are out of the World Cup
Sadly, I don't think it is at all weird. Because I suspect this awful event is a direct result of Pakistan going out of the World Cup.
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Terrible news, a fine player and coach.
R.I.P.
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Buzzer said:
RIP Bob.
What a sad and lonely way to go. The Irish coach said that he made no excuses and was most gracious in defeat. Ps Without wishing to divert the topic - which cricketers died?
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Barrel of Fun said:RIP Bob.
Ps Without wishing to divert the topic - which cricketers died?
Freddie Flintoffs career is one
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Manjural Islam and Sajjadul Hasan.Barrel of Fun said:
Manjural had played six Tests and 25 ODIs for Bangladesh between 2003-04 and 2005-06. He was 22.
http://content-www.cricinfo.com/bangladesh/content/story/285546.html
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Thank you very much. I don't know why I didn't check cricinfo.Lord Bracknell said:
Very sad indeed.
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Very, very sad.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6464983.stm
I was only thinking yesterday, after watching an interview of him, why is he not coaching England instead of that twat Fletcher.
RIP
I was only thinking yesterday, after watching an interview of him, why is he not coaching England instead of that twat Fletcher.
RIP