BNP........

[Simster]

Yes, but that was against a divided opposition - the french left was in a hell of state.

Yep, and their system was so screwed that they ended up having to vote for corrupt goon Jacques Chirac (disliked by everyone), or the NF were going to get in!

There is PR in the European elections and the BNP got nowhere near 10% and that was on a lower turnout - they'd get a smaller share at a General Election. The 2009 European election was also held when Labour and Gordon Brown were at their most unpopular, just after the expenses scandal broke: that won't apply at a future general election.

But the simple fact is that we've never had a GE under PR, so you have no idea what effect that will have. Disenfranchised voters everywhere would express themselves as they wished, no tactical nonsense.

 

[The Spanish]

in the meantime parts of britain suffer from the effects of mass immigration and no one gives a f*** as long as they can sneer at thickies, bash up asians or get cheap labour.

 

[Giraffe]

That's brilliant

Believe me, if we got PR you would be very surprised how large a vote BNP would get. There is a large racist element in England in particular. Look at how the lib dem vote came out, largely I suspect on the back of the outing of their immigration policy.

 

[Giraffe]

Disenfranchised voters everywhere would express themselves as they wished, no tactical nonsense.

Spot on. I would also suggest that in the long term it would lead to the end of the Union of England, Scotland and Wales.

English people given a party to vote for under PR that would reduce the amount of funding given to the others by going alone would do very well in my view.

 

[Gwylan]

Yep, and their system was so screwed that they ended up having to vote for corrupt goon Jacques Chirac (disliked by everyone), or the NF were going to get in!

But the simple fact is that we've never had a GE under PR, so you have no idea what effect that will have. Disenfranchised voters everywhere would express themselves as they wished, no tactical nonsense.

I remember the election well "Votez l'escroc, pas le facho" (vote for the crook, not the fascist).

But we did have a Euro election under PR and Euro elections are perfect examples of a place to make a protest vote - didn't the Greens score 12% in one about 10 years ago? But given the opportunity to express themselves as they wished, with no tactical voting, they gave BNP just 6% of the vote - at a time when there was huge dissatisfaction with Labour. That suggests to me that the BNP would struggle to deliver more than that - and probably a lot fewer at a GE.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

in the meantime parts of britain suffer from the effects of mass immigration and no one gives a f*** as long as they can sneer at thickies, bash up asians or get cheap labour.

that sounds pretty sneering.

 

[ROKERITE]

I share the general pleasure that The B.N.P. have failed to win a seat. However, you've voted in an extremist in Brighton. If Green Party policies were ever implemented nationally, the lights would go out and thousands of old people would freeze to death each Winter in this country. Caroline Lucas and her mob are every bit as dangerous as Nick Griffin and his fascists.

 

[The Spanish]

that sounds pretty sneering.

quality stuff. charlie brooker and david mitchell will be looking over their shoulders for the next election night gig.

 

[auschr]

I share the general pleasure that The B.N.P. have failed to win a seat. However, you've voted in an extremist in Brighton. If Green Party policies were ever implemented nationally, the lights would go out and thousands of old people would freeze to death each Winter in this country. Caroline Lucas and her mob are every bit as dangerous as Nick Griffin and his fascists.

lol

 

[coventrygull]

in the meantime parts of britain suffer from the effects of mass immigration and no one gives a f*** as long as they can sneer at thickies, bash up asians or get cheap labour.

Give it a few years and they will give a f***

 

[Simster]

that sounds pretty sneering.

Haven't you realised yet? Nearly every single post from "The Spanish" is him bleating about how the British middle classes have got it all wrong. If only they were as down with the kids as him, in his cosy desk bound recruitment job in central London surrounded by familiar trappings such as Pret a Manger outlets and pubs serving seared tuna served by cheap immigrant labour.

He's working to beat the system from within, you see. You'd be absolutely wrong to draw the conclusion that he is in any way deluded and hypocritical, too busy sniping at the middle classes rather than getting off his arse to do something about an issue he feels so strongly about.

 

[sten_super]

I share the general pleasure that The B.N.P. have failed to win a seat. However, you've voted in an extremist in Brighton. If Green Party policies were ever implemented nationally, the lights would go out and thousands of old people would freeze to death each Winter in this country. Caroline Lucas and her mob are every bit as dangerous as Nick Griffin and his fascists.

Riiiiiggggghhhhhttttt.

The Greens aren't really a political party anyway, they are a pressure group, and a very successful one at that. The reason that they have done so badly in most elections is precisely because what was once the territory of the Green party is now viewed as the centre in politics; that we need a green economy, that we should be looking at alternatives to oil as a transport fuel, and that global warming is a clear and present danger. The Green party will always be a slightly wacky 'out there' party because that is what they need to do to distinguish themselves from the pack and further awareness of their aims and ideals.

 

[coventrygull]

Haven't you realised yet? Nearly every single post from "The Spanish" is him bleating about how the British middle classes have got it all wrong. If only they were as down with the kids as him, in his cosy desk bound recruitment job in central London surrounded by familiar trappings such as Pret a Manger outlets and pubs serving seared tuna served by cheap immigrant labour.

He's working to beat the system from within, you see. You'd be absolutely wrong to draw the conclusion that he is in any way deluded and hypocritical, too busy sniping at the middle classes rather than getting off his arse to do something about an issue he feels so strongly about.

So do you respect people that do get off their arse and do something then

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

quality stuff. charlie brooker and david mitchell will be looking over their shoulders for the next election night gig.

Maybe you are right. It was not intended to be funny - but if you found it quality stuff - perhaps I should have a go.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

So do you respect people that do get off their arse and do something then

Everyone does don't they - as long as it done in the right way ? What point are you making ?

 

[coventrygull]

Everyone does don't they - as long as it done in the right way ? What point are you making ?

So you respect BNP members then?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Give it a few years and they will give a f***

Lots of people do give a f*** now. And amongst others the BNP has woken up a lot of people to the scale of what has happened.

You do not have to live in a certain part of the country (or even as it happens a particular post code) to understand the problem.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

So you respect BNP members then?

Of course. If they do it in the right way. I respect their view. I may not agree with it - but it is a legitimate view that has evey right to be represented in our democracy.

Why would there be an issue ?

 

[auschr]

bnp and ukip must be supporting electoral reform. imo they did really well, every return i heard i usually listened out for ukip and bnp and was surprised they usually had no less than a thousand votes which considering their views is not bad. it's a shame though they have nothing to show for it, speaking for myself, if this hung parliament brings the british people anything, it should be electoral reform.

 

[coventrygull]

Of course. If they do it in the right way. I respect their view. I may not agree with it - but it is a legitimate view that has evey right to be represented in our democracy.

Why would there be an issue ?

May be not you but some on here are rather negative about BNP voters and members.