[News] Bloody Sunday - Soldier to be prosecuted

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Serving soldiers should never be immune from prosecution for firing into a group of civilians. Else where do you draw the line?

 

[Baker lite]

I’m done with this country now, is there no end to the betrayal?
I am politically homeless and really starting to loathe the nation I once served and loved.


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[Charlies Shinpad]

Serving soldiers should never be immune from prosecution for firing into a group of civilians. Else where do you draw the line?

The IRA should never be immune from prosecution for blowing up innocent civilians and shooting British Soldiers

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[Charlies Shinpad]

I’m done with this country now, is there no end to the betrayal?
I am politically homeless and really starting to loathe the nation I once served and loved.


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Couldn't agree with you more.

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[oneillco]

Bloody horrible, and we never want to go back to those days. Bloody Sunday in 1972 escalated the troubles exponentially and IRA recruitment rocketed. Two years later came the Birmingham bombs and in 1984 the Hyde Park bomb.

Touché

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[Hastings gull]

That's not true.

There is currently an attempt to extradite John Downey so that he can stand trial for the murder of two British soldiers in 1972.

But how long has this been going on for? Presumably he is the Irish Republic?

 

[Hastings gull]

Serving soldiers should never be immune from prosecution for firing into a group of civilians. Else where do you draw the line?

Whilst I would always support the military, and give them the benefit of the doubt when they are put in highly-charged situations, I also see what you are saying. When it then gets nasty, is when we suspect that less than enthusiastic efforts are made to bring IRA killers to justice, as the price of the Good Friday Agreement.

 

[daveinplzen]

you and i both know this is utter bollox.....they were put there by our govt. a lot of them were only 17 , 18 ......some didn't come back ....on this matter the left needs to button it.

I dont believe it will achieve anything by dragging him through the justice system after almost 50 years other than some comfort for the families of those killed that day
but, you and me dont get to decide who is dragged through the justice system.
As for the mistakes... well, if somebody is shot in the back, it makes it a difficult issue.
Incidentally, Im sure you consider me a 'lefty'. I served in the armed forces. Its not a left/right thing

 

[Hastings gull]

I dont believe it will achieve anything by dragging him through the justice system after almost 50 years other than some comfort for the families of those killed that day
but, you and me dont get to decide who is dragged through the justice system.
As for the mistakes... well, if somebody is shot in the back, it makes it a difficult issue.
Incidentally, Im sure you consider me a 'lefty'. I served in the armed forces. Its not a left/right thing

Yes, I know that you are leftie, but also that you served . . Yes, you are right - what is now to be gained? Is it in the public interest? I would not have thought so, given that I imagine the vast majority would see that the process would be one-sided.

 

[AmexRuislip]

While I have every sympathy with the families of those killed it does seem to be one rule for the IRA and one for the British military. I thought the GFA effectively wiped the slate clean for both sides ?

Absolute disgrace IMO
This government shouldn't have let it get this far

 

[Dave the OAP]

Do you practice hard to be stupid or does it come naturally

I have a great teacher in you Tony

 

[portslade seagull]

But how long has this been going on for? Presumably he is the Irish Republic?

If so I ask why the Irish government haven't extradited him so he can stand trial .... I wonder

 

[portlock seagull]

Disgusted by this betrayal of our soldiers. Surprised anyone wants to join up given the mess politicians like Blair put them in, the complete lack of kit they have to operate with and the shoddy after-care once left which is mostly left to charities to pick up. And repercussions that 50 years later can be dragged up - as if any scared kid, which they were at the time, acting under orders in a combat zone should be responsible for those events. Disgrace. Absolute disgrace.

 

[ManOfSussex]

But how long has this been going on for? Presumably he is the Irish Republic?

If so I ask why the Irish government haven't extradited him so he can stand trial .... I wonder

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...extradition-to-northern-ireland-37885955.html

 

[jonny.rainbow]

While I have every sympathy with the families of those killed it does seem to be one rule for the IRA and one for the British military. I thought the GFA effectively wiped the slate clean for both sides ?

Those murdered by the British Army that day were not members of the IRA.

 

[The Rivet]

If a 77yr old soldier is to be prosecuted then any former IRA villain should also be fair game. I don't care about previous political conveniences!

 

[The Rivet]

Those murdered by the British Army that day were not members of the IRA.

And many murdered by the IRA were not military members! You stupid fella.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

If a 77yr old soldier is to be prosecuted then any former IRA villain should also be fair game. I don't care about previous political conveniences!

Those murdered by the British Army that day were not members of the IRA.

Are you sure about that. How do you know? Being in the IRA was prohibited by law then and now. I’m sure that building barricades across a catholic estate and protesting british military presesence makes them blameless civilians in your eyes but...and it’s a big but..there were shots fired at British soldiers from behind those barricades by someone.

Those soldiers were kids with large calibre assault rifles. Throwing bricks at them and firing the odd round provoked a terrible response and people died. The IRA replied by killing kids and civvies in Birmingham, Rotherham, Brighton, London, Manchester and Christ knows where else.

War is hell. Get over it.

 

[The Rivet]

Are you sure about that. How do you know? Being in the IRA was prohibited by law then and now. I’m sure that building barricades across a catholic estate and protesting british military presesence makes them blameless civilians in your eyes but...and it’s a big but..there were shots fired at British soldiers from behind those barricades by someone.

Those soldiers were kids with large calibre assault rifles. Throwing bricks at them and firing the odd round provoked a terrible response and people died. The IRA replied by killing kids and civvies in Birmingham, Rotherham, Brighton, London, Manchester and Christ knows where else.

War is hell. Get over it.

.....Calm down dear. War is certainly hell and fairness should apply to the 'combatants' don't you think?

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

.....Calm down dear. War is certainly hell and fairness should apply to the 'combatants' don't you think?

Ooh that’s waspish love. What I’m saying, to be clear, is this.

You are wrong.

Thank you.