Rodney Thomas
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If Russia lose the WC then he'll need to be watching what he eats!
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If Russia lose the WC then he'll need to be watching what he eats!
KZNSeagull
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Have found this extract from the indictment re the SA 2010 World Cup bid. (Mr Oliphant won the FIFA Merit Award in 2010 and the Order of Ikhamanga in Gold 2011 "For his excellent contribution to the development of soccer and his participation in ensuring that South Africa won the bid to host the 2010 FIFA World Cup and in hosting a successful Soccer World Cup tournament in 2010."
Source: http://www.rdm.co.za/politics/2015/05/28/us-fifa-indictment-on-sa-s-world-cup-2010-bid-full-text and http://whoswho.co.za/molefi-oliphant-4951-4951
2010 FIFA World Cup Vote Scheme
185. In or about 2004, the FIFA executive committee considered bids from Morocco, South Africa and Egypt, as well as other nations that withdrew before the vote, to host the 2010 World Cup.
186. Previously, the defendant JACK WARNER and his family had cultivated ties with South African soccer officials in connection with and subsequent to a failed bid by South Africa to host the 2006 World Cup. In the early 2000s, Co-Conspirator #14, a member of WARNER’s family, had used WARNER’s contacts in South Africa to organise friendly matches for CONCAF teams to play in South Africa. At one point, WARNER also directed Co-conspirator #14 to fly to Paris, France and accept a briefcase containing bundles of US currency in $10 000 stacks in a hotel room from Co-Conspirator #15, a high-ranking South African bid committee official. Hours after arriving in Paris, Co-Conspirator #14 boarded a return flight and carried the briefcase back to Trinidad and Tobago, where Co-Conspirator #14 provided it to WARNER.
187. In the months before the selection of the host nation for the 2010 World Cup, which was scheduled to take place in May 2004, the defendant JACK WARNER and Co-Conspirator #1 traveled to Morocco as they had done in 1992, in advance of the voting for the 1988 World Cup host. While in Morocco during the 2004 trip, a representative of the Moroccan bid committee offered to pay $1 million to WARNER in exchange for his agreement to cast his secret ballot on the FIFA executive committee for Morocco to host the 2010 World Cup.
188. Subsequently, Co-Conspirator #1 learned from the defendant JACK WARNER that high-ranking officials of FIFA, the South African government, and the South African bid committee, including Co-Conspirator #16, were prepared to arrange for the government of South Africa to pay $10 million to CFU to “support the African diaspora.” Co-Conspirator #1 understood the offer to be in exchange for the agreement of WARNER, Co-Conspirator #1, and Co-Conspirator #17 to all vote for South Africa, rather than Morocco, to host the 2010 World Cup. At the same time, Co-Conspirator #17, like WARNER and Co-Conspirator #1, was a FIFA executive committee member. WARNER indicated that he had accepted the offer and told Co-Conspirator #1 that he would give a $1 million portion of the $10 million payment to Co-Conspirator #1.
189. In FIFA’s executive committee vote held on May 15, 2004, South Africa was selected over Morocco and Egypt to host the 2010 World Cup. The defendant JACK WARNER, Co-Conspirator #1, and Co-Conspirator #17 indicated that they voted for South Africa.
190. In the months and years after the vote, Co-Conspirator #1 periodically asked WARNER about the status of the $10 million payment.
191. At one point, Co-Conspirator #1 learned that the South Africans were unable to arrange for the payment to be made directly from government funds. Arrangements were thereafter made with FIFA officials to instead have the $10 million sent from FIFA – using funds that would otherwise have gone from FIFA to South Africa to support the World Cup – to CFU.
192. In fact, on January 2, 2008, January 31, 2008 and March 7, 2008, a high-ranking FIFA official caused payments of $616 000, $1 600 000 and $7 784 000 – totaling $10 million – to be wired from a FIFA account in New York, New York, for credit to accounts held in the names of CFU and CONCACAF, but controlled by the defendant JACK WARNER, at Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago.
193. Soon after receiving these wire transfers, the defendant JACK WARNER caused a substantial portion of the funds to be diverted for his personal use. For example, on January 9, 2008, WARNER directed Republic Bank officials to apply $200 000 of the $616 000 that had been transferred into a CFU account from FIFA one week earlier toward a personal loan account held in his name.
194. The defendant JACK WARNER also diverted a portion of the funds into his personal accounts by laundering the funds through intermediaries. For example, during the period from January 16, 2008 to March 27, 2008, WARNER caused approximately $1.4 million of the $10 million to be transferred to Individual #1, a Trinidadian businessman whose identity is known to the Grand Jury, and Trinidadian Company A, a large supermarket chain in Trinidad and Tobago controlled by Individual #1. Weeks later, checks totaling approximately the same amount and drawn on an account held in the name of Trinidadian Company B, a real estate and investment company also controlled by Individual #1, were deposited into a bank account held in the name of WARNER and family member at First Citizens Bank in Trinidad and Tobago. The identities of the Trinidadian Company A and Trinidadian Company B are known to the Grand Jury.
195. During the three years following WARNER’s receipt of the $10 million from FIFA, WARNER made three payments to Co-Conspirator #1, totaling over $750 000, in partial payment of the $1 million that WARNER had earlier promised Co-Conspirator #1 as part of the bribe scheme.
196. The first payment, in the amount of $298 500, was made by wire transfer sent on or about December 19, 2008 from an account held in the name of CFU at Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago, to a Bank of America correspondent account in New York, New York, for credit to an account controlled by Co-Conspirator #1 at a bank in the Cayman Islands.
197. The second payment, in the amount of $205 000, was made by check drawn on an account held in the name of CFU at Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago. On or about September 27, 2010, Co-Conspirator #1 caused the check to be deposited into his Merrill Lynch brokerage account in New York, New York. Approximately one month earlier, on or about August 23, 2010, WARNER sent an email to Co-Conspirator #1 to adise him that the payment was forthcoming.
198. The third payment, in the amount of $250 000, was made by check drawn on the account held in the name of CFU at Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago. The check was delivered to Co-Conspirator #1 by another individual who traveled by airplane from Trinidad and Tobago JFK International Airport in Queens, New York, and then to CONCACAF’s headquarters in New York, New York, where he delivered the check to Co-Conspirator #1. A representative of FirstCaribbean International Bank in the Bahamas, where Co-Conspirator #1 held another account, subsequently traveled by airplane to New York, landing at Kenneday Airport. After arriving, the bank representative traveled to New York, New York, where he took custody of the check. He subsequently traveled to the Bahamas and, on or about May 3, 2011, deposited the check into Co-Conspirator #1’s account. Approximately two months earlier, on or about March 13, 2011, WARNER sent an email to Co-Conspirator #1 to advise him that the payment was forthcoming.
199. Co-Conspirator #1 never received the balance of the promised $1 million payment.
Source: http://www.rdm.co.za/politics/2015/05/28/us-fifa-indictment-on-sa-s-world-cup-2010-bid-full-text and http://whoswho.co.za/molefi-oliphant-4951-4951
2010 FIFA World Cup Vote Scheme
185. In or about 2004, the FIFA executive committee considered bids from Morocco, South Africa and Egypt, as well as other nations that withdrew before the vote, to host the 2010 World Cup.
186. Previously, the defendant JACK WARNER and his family had cultivated ties with South African soccer officials in connection with and subsequent to a failed bid by South Africa to host the 2006 World Cup. In the early 2000s, Co-Conspirator #14, a member of WARNER’s family, had used WARNER’s contacts in South Africa to organise friendly matches for CONCAF teams to play in South Africa. At one point, WARNER also directed Co-conspirator #14 to fly to Paris, France and accept a briefcase containing bundles of US currency in $10 000 stacks in a hotel room from Co-Conspirator #15, a high-ranking South African bid committee official. Hours after arriving in Paris, Co-Conspirator #14 boarded a return flight and carried the briefcase back to Trinidad and Tobago, where Co-Conspirator #14 provided it to WARNER.
187. In the months before the selection of the host nation for the 2010 World Cup, which was scheduled to take place in May 2004, the defendant JACK WARNER and Co-Conspirator #1 traveled to Morocco as they had done in 1992, in advance of the voting for the 1988 World Cup host. While in Morocco during the 2004 trip, a representative of the Moroccan bid committee offered to pay $1 million to WARNER in exchange for his agreement to cast his secret ballot on the FIFA executive committee for Morocco to host the 2010 World Cup.
188. Subsequently, Co-Conspirator #1 learned from the defendant JACK WARNER that high-ranking officials of FIFA, the South African government, and the South African bid committee, including Co-Conspirator #16, were prepared to arrange for the government of South Africa to pay $10 million to CFU to “support the African diaspora.” Co-Conspirator #1 understood the offer to be in exchange for the agreement of WARNER, Co-Conspirator #1, and Co-Conspirator #17 to all vote for South Africa, rather than Morocco, to host the 2010 World Cup. At the same time, Co-Conspirator #17, like WARNER and Co-Conspirator #1, was a FIFA executive committee member. WARNER indicated that he had accepted the offer and told Co-Conspirator #1 that he would give a $1 million portion of the $10 million payment to Co-Conspirator #1.
189. In FIFA’s executive committee vote held on May 15, 2004, South Africa was selected over Morocco and Egypt to host the 2010 World Cup. The defendant JACK WARNER, Co-Conspirator #1, and Co-Conspirator #17 indicated that they voted for South Africa.
190. In the months and years after the vote, Co-Conspirator #1 periodically asked WARNER about the status of the $10 million payment.
191. At one point, Co-Conspirator #1 learned that the South Africans were unable to arrange for the payment to be made directly from government funds. Arrangements were thereafter made with FIFA officials to instead have the $10 million sent from FIFA – using funds that would otherwise have gone from FIFA to South Africa to support the World Cup – to CFU.
192. In fact, on January 2, 2008, January 31, 2008 and March 7, 2008, a high-ranking FIFA official caused payments of $616 000, $1 600 000 and $7 784 000 – totaling $10 million – to be wired from a FIFA account in New York, New York, for credit to accounts held in the names of CFU and CONCACAF, but controlled by the defendant JACK WARNER, at Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago.
193. Soon after receiving these wire transfers, the defendant JACK WARNER caused a substantial portion of the funds to be diverted for his personal use. For example, on January 9, 2008, WARNER directed Republic Bank officials to apply $200 000 of the $616 000 that had been transferred into a CFU account from FIFA one week earlier toward a personal loan account held in his name.
194. The defendant JACK WARNER also diverted a portion of the funds into his personal accounts by laundering the funds through intermediaries. For example, during the period from January 16, 2008 to March 27, 2008, WARNER caused approximately $1.4 million of the $10 million to be transferred to Individual #1, a Trinidadian businessman whose identity is known to the Grand Jury, and Trinidadian Company A, a large supermarket chain in Trinidad and Tobago controlled by Individual #1. Weeks later, checks totaling approximately the same amount and drawn on an account held in the name of Trinidadian Company B, a real estate and investment company also controlled by Individual #1, were deposited into a bank account held in the name of WARNER and family member at First Citizens Bank in Trinidad and Tobago. The identities of the Trinidadian Company A and Trinidadian Company B are known to the Grand Jury.
195. During the three years following WARNER’s receipt of the $10 million from FIFA, WARNER made three payments to Co-Conspirator #1, totaling over $750 000, in partial payment of the $1 million that WARNER had earlier promised Co-Conspirator #1 as part of the bribe scheme.
196. The first payment, in the amount of $298 500, was made by wire transfer sent on or about December 19, 2008 from an account held in the name of CFU at Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago, to a Bank of America correspondent account in New York, New York, for credit to an account controlled by Co-Conspirator #1 at a bank in the Cayman Islands.
197. The second payment, in the amount of $205 000, was made by check drawn on an account held in the name of CFU at Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago. On or about September 27, 2010, Co-Conspirator #1 caused the check to be deposited into his Merrill Lynch brokerage account in New York, New York. Approximately one month earlier, on or about August 23, 2010, WARNER sent an email to Co-Conspirator #1 to adise him that the payment was forthcoming.
198. The third payment, in the amount of $250 000, was made by check drawn on the account held in the name of CFU at Republic Bank in Trinidad and Tobago. The check was delivered to Co-Conspirator #1 by another individual who traveled by airplane from Trinidad and Tobago JFK International Airport in Queens, New York, and then to CONCACAF’s headquarters in New York, New York, where he delivered the check to Co-Conspirator #1. A representative of FirstCaribbean International Bank in the Bahamas, where Co-Conspirator #1 held another account, subsequently traveled by airplane to New York, landing at Kenneday Airport. After arriving, the bank representative traveled to New York, New York, where he took custody of the check. He subsequently traveled to the Bahamas and, on or about May 3, 2011, deposited the check into Co-Conspirator #1’s account. Approximately two months earlier, on or about March 13, 2011, WARNER sent an email to Co-Conspirator #1 to advise him that the payment was forthcoming.
199. Co-Conspirator #1 never received the balance of the promised $1 million payment.
Another interesting point.
If Qatar/Russia have been found of winning via bribes could that open up FIFA to being sued by the losing nations.
If Qatar/Russia have been found of winning via bribes could that open up FIFA to being sued by the losing nations.
Mellor 3 Ward 4
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Papa Lazarou
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If there's any hint of corruption / bribery in either campaign I can't see how they could not re-run the selection process - otherwise they will get sued, if only for the re-inbursement of the cost of the failed (never stood a chance) bid.
KZNSeagull
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SA claiming that payment was not a bribe. Yes, we all believe you.
Presumably they can be sued by those that lost the 2010 bid too.
KZNSeagull
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They could - Morocco only offered $1m. Cheapskates.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
They did more than offer $1m, they gave Warner $1m. Sadly for them, SA gave Warner $10m. Kerrrching!
Pavilionaire
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Does anyone know the reason behind choosing two World Cup venues at the same time? Leaving the corruption aside, it would appear that there was insufficient time to fully evaluate all of the bids, i.e. that you logistically can't play a World Cup in Qatar in June.
All the focus is on corruption but the venue "two in one" was a shocker on a major scale. I've not seen anything like it since Les Dennis gave us "Double Money" on Family Fortunes.
All the focus is on corruption but the venue "two in one" was a shocker on a major scale. I've not seen anything like it since Les Dennis gave us "Double Money" on Family Fortunes.
Makes it easier to corrupt. Opportunities for vote swapping etc... That's the only reason I can see for doing two in one.
Pavilionaire
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I wonder whether Jack Warner is any relation to Warner Bros. Is that what he said to Morocco - "Th-th-th-that's all folks!"
Mackenzie
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Will Blatter end up in prison?
Pavilionaire
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As a kid I was a big fan of Dangermouse. I can't wait to hear from the Morocco Mole.
Pavilionaire
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I don't know boy but he sure do have a purty mouth...
No. He had to resign from FIFA due to a sudden deterioration in his health, and he's not fit to stand trial.
Doc Lynam
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
But, but ..... that nice Mr Blatter had a 10 minute standing ovation from his staff today.
So did Kim Jong-il , I expect ..............
Anti Aircraft battery at close range if they didn't, anyway.