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Grombleton

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There is not enough popcorn in the WORLD for this thread.
 






Jan 30, 2008
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I am not sure I can be more plain.

If those protesting/inclined to violence for BLM or in memory of George Floyd want to “fight back” then the oppressors are not their local businesses which are owned by black Americans or those that employ black Americans. Those businesses would have been saved. But they weren’t. They were burnt and looted.

If those protesting/inclined to violence for BLM or in memory of George Floyd want to “fight back” then the oppressors are not young black American men. These young black American men would not be violently murdered in their thousands at the hands of other young black American men across the states. But they don’t and the murders continue.

The people looting black American owned businesses and murdering young black American men can stop if BLM matters.

Holding a BLM placard up in Trafalgar Sq or kneeling on your doorstep in Hayward’s Heath ain’t gonna stop this shit.........it’s just meaningless bollocks.

Fair comment
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The Antikythera Mechanism

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Aug 7, 2003
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For someone so apparently unbothered by my reply this is the 4th time you've quoted a post by me in this thread.

Here’s the fifth and final one - You should really read and try to understand what people mean when they comment, rather than misinterpret, in order to give illogical, meaningless and muddled responses, purely for the sake of it. Not everyone on here is looking for an argument.
 






ATFC Seagull

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Jul 27, 2004
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If there is no racial bias when it comes to violent crimes, you can’t possibly assume a racial bias with any other crimes without examining the 3rd and 4th variables. If there was a racial bias, it would exist here.

Last year, 5.1% (19/370) of white people killed by cops were unarmed. While 3.8% (9/235) of black people killed by cops were unarmed. This includes all deaths caused by cops.

I'm not assuming a racial bias, I'm just stating that the statistic you gave doesn't have any relevance to the issue at hand.

I don't advocate the death penalty and I don't advocate armed police where possible. However, one could imagine that, regarding violent crimes, it may be perceived as necessary to shoot a suspect. So what your stat suggests is that, when it comes to suspects who "NEED" shooting, there is no racial bias. However, the whole context of this movement is about those who definitely do not need to be killed because they are not posing a threat.
 






Yes Chef

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:lolol: White English male accuses black US youtubers of being crackpots and talking drivel. You couldn't make this up? Oh er hang on a second :shrug:

Great, now you're paraphrasing Richard Littlejohn, that bastion of considered thought.

You have no evidence of Democrats inciting violence to garner votes, which is what you started with. You were talking rubbish.
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Bit harsh, I actually liken Alan to the late Dennis Thatcher, a likeable buffoon, entertaining but ultimately harmless really.

He's the only person I know who thought it was a good idea to send John Prescott flowers re Falmer in the week of Valentines Day. :ffsparr:

Denis Thatcher a buffoon?

A successful businessman from memory
 




Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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I am not sure I can be more plain.

If those protesting / inclined to violence for BLM or in memory of George Floyd want to “fight back” then the oppressors are not their local businesses which are owned by black Americans or those that employ black Americans. Those businesses would have been saved. But they weren’t. They were burnt and looted.

These two aren't necessarily linked. Those protesting have condemned the violence. You're plain in making the link, doesn't make it truth, anymore than either of us knows what is going on with those peacefully protesting and those violently doing so on the streets of the US. You're assuming you know when you don't, and it suits you to link them because you can then rubbish the basis of the protest. It's what any sensible totalitarian rhetoric would be. Undermine the protest, destroy the idea.
 


symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
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Great, now you're paraphrasing Richard Littlejohn, that bastion of considered thought.

You have no evidence of Democrats inciting violence to garner votes, which is what you started with. You were talking rubbish.

Nah I know nothing about Richard Littlejohn or what he says. Is this supposed to be an insult by the way? Looking him up I can see that he writes for the Mail, a paper I don't read, but I guess this was intended as an insult?

You have accused the two people from the black US community in the videos of being crackpots and talking drivel. Hmmm just think about this for a minute!

I won't bother engaging with you until you have watched the videos with their testimonies.

I am posting their narrative and if you cannot be bothered to listen that is your problem is not mine. You can respond with your outrage on their channels not with me.

They do say that ignorance is bliss. You must be having a whale of a time.
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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No surprise, [MENTION=257]The Large One[/MENTION] called me an "apologist for racist murders." earlier. It's infantile behaviour from a fully grown fat white man trolling from the south coast in his bedroom.

No doubt that I will be banned from this thread for calling him a fat white man, and he will get the pass for calling me a racist murder apologist.

Not that you've just proved my point...

Interesting that you should equate the relative size of one person to another's inhumane and disgusting attitude towards people whose skin tone is different, and thereby basing an entirely false narrative on their worth and place in humanity - and think it an appropriate comparison.

You have major issues.
 




symyjym

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Not that you've just proved my point...

Interesting that you should equate the relative size of one person to another's inhumane and disgusting attitude towards people whose skin tone is different, and thereby basing an entirely false narrative on their worth and place in humanity - and think it an appropriate comparison.

You have major issues.

I've never met you. Are you a fat white man?
 


The Large One

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Bit harsh, I actually liken Alan to the late Dennis Thatcher, a likeable buffoon, entertaining but ultimately harmless really.

You've actually likened me to a planet-wrecking racist.

People thought Boris Johnson was a likeable buffoon. Seems that there is no such thing...

He's the only person I know who thought it was a good idea to send John Prescott flowers re Falmer in the week of Valentines Day. :ffsparr:

I don't recall voicing an opinion on this matter.

That said, hundreds, maybe thousands, of people thought it was a good idea. Including the collective will of NSC.
 


Hastings gull

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Nov 23, 2013
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You don't think that the UK Mirrors the US ?


The British people just voted in at a landslide. A Prime Minister who referred to Muslim Women as ''Letter Boxes''

A Government who on the whole got their ticket to Downing Street backed by people who want to turn their back on the Humanitarian Issues of Migrants fleeing War Zones.

I don't want to go on because I could be here for hours. This Government rode to Power on the backs of many people with the same views as Donald Trump's Supporters in the US. If you don't think that we are mirroring the US then I would suggest that the US are probably mirroring the UK.

I obviously don't include all Trump or Johnson Supporters in my above Synopsis. That would be foolish of me to suggest that; however, those views exist in many of their supporters and to dismiss it - It is no wonder there is a need for the ''Black Lives Matter Movement''

If the Migrant Camps around the World were full of white people then there would be more of an Urgency for Governments to put together Aid packages to solve it.

That Police killing is just the tip of the iceberg. Watching a White Man slowly extinguish the life of a Black Man on film over a 10 minute period is a tough watch for anyone. All police officers attending that should have been charged with murder. Perhaps some of them would have been judged to be innocent by virtue of the fact that their part in the killing was non existent or minimal but they should all be charged for a Jury to decide and it should have happened instantly.

As a Society we all need to take a long hard look at ourselves.

Watching people die around the World when they could be saved. I feel Guilty and I have no power to prevent it. Collectively we have the Power to help prevent some of it. But to bury our head in the sands and claim this is an issue in the US and not on our own Doorsteps ? - That just doesn't wash with me.

The letter box issue you quote is a gross over-simplification. he did not refer to muslim women as such, rather that those who choose to dress like that look like letter boxes. He was concerned about the subjugation of women. And again you try to fit everything into your narrative by simplifying voters views, when you have absolutely no evidence for your assertion . You need to take a long hard look at yourself.
 


The_Viper

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Oct 10, 2010
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This is very much worth a watch. Also worth remembering this is a Black American talking about the issues in Black America, take your British specs off for a moment and try and empathise. When anyone ever asks me what culture shocks do I have living in the US after moving from the UK I always answer the same. The religion and the racism.


 




The Large One

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I've never met you. Are you a fat white man?

A meaningless question, borne of a lack of forethought.

Meanwhile, I have read your posts, and would be hard pushed to change my mind that you have certain issues - racism, misogyny, homophobia etc. - which have yet to be dealt with.

Attempting to equate being overweight with being an apologist for racist murders being one example.
 


symyjym

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Nov 2, 2009
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A meaningless question, borne of a lack of forethought.

Meanwhile, I have read your posts, and would be hard pushed to change my mind that you have certain issues - racism, misogyny, homophobia etc. - which have yet to be dealt with.

Attempting to equate being overweight with being an apologist for racist murders being one example.

Get over yourself
 


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