[News] Black Lives Matter

[BadFish]

I am treating all people I meet as I find them. I think that's enough. I teach my child to do the same. I think that America has the massive problem of the hangover of slavery also they are generally more likely to own and use guns.. I don't think their race problems mirror ours in the UK. Theirs is a way more divisive society and that is sad.

Could you clarify what you mean by this?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

This latest incident is horrendous and one of the most telling quotes in all this from Martin Luther King's oldest son, who states nothing has changed since his father was gunned down 52 years ago.

I did listen to Lara Woods on Talk Sport Breakfast the other day, and she was going on about 'White Privileged' and the phrase meaning that as white people the world over we've never been discriminated against because of the colour of our skin.

I'm not sure the former white farmers in Rhodesia would agree with that?

Whataboutery at its finest.

Only today on R5 there was report of a discussion among middle class women in England somewhere, one of whom was black. They were celebrating their inclusivity and one of them mentioned how she never thought about colour. The black woman said 'that's because you never have to'.

The Rhodesian farmers were chucked out because Mugabi thought he'd bolster his support by 'giving' land to his tribesmen. Most of the land was owned by whites so most of the stolen land was stolen from whites. If you think this kills stone dead any wider notion of white privilage, you need to give your head a wobble.

 

[Pavilionaire]

There is so much about the George Floyd story that is sad, but the most dangerous aspect of it is with Trump himself..

Trump has reacted by thinking only of himself and his re-election hopes. It's all about law and order, being god-fearing and playing on racial fears. He is gambling that this stance will still resonate with those that voted for him before.

It is sad to see absolutely no progress on key issues like endemic racism, gun crime, religious tolerance, climate change, foreign policy and world peace. Can the world survive another 4 years of Trump? To me the guy is unhinged and if he continues to lose control it is not beyond him to start a war to change the dynamic.

 

[blue-shifted]

You might want to called it ''Abolition'' but every slave owner in the UK who owned a slave had to be paid, and paid handsomely they were by the British Government for those slaves to be set free.

And what did many of them do with their money ?

They bought sugar Plantations in the US and the West Indies where they owned even more slaves and made even more money Exporting Sugar back to the UK.

I applaud that Yorkshireman for what he did - But he failed to change hearts and minds and that is what is needed if you are to eradicate Racism.

A bit out of order to say he failed to chance hearts and minds, not sure how one man living in the UK could do this. He did more to help slaves than almost any other human in history.

 

[BrickTamland]

Minneapolis is a Democrat led city and has been since 1976.

Please fact check the following: The Chief of Police is a Democrat, the Mayor, Governor and Attorney General are Democrats too. George Floyd's death happened under the Democratic authority and at the hands of their police.

It is ironic that the Democrats are now fanning the flames for rioting in the US and globally, when this awful event happened under their own jurisdiction. and that George Floyd is now being used as a mascot for their own political gain in the next election.

Make of this what you will.

Little more than you’re a contrarian

 

[symyjym]

If anyone is interested in an alternative view from the black community in the US you should watch the following videos:

https://youtu.be/YoVoc9kerEs

https://youtu.be/RFBsxEdhbKA

 

[A1X]

"Pulled up" by you? I dont think so, please dont flatter yourself

For someone so apparently unbothered by my reply this is the 4th time you've quoted a post by me in this thread.

 

[symyjym]

Little more than you’re a contrarian

Because I fact check?

Anyway I have provided NSC it's medicine today but I won't make you swallow it.

 

[NooBHA]

A bit out of order to say he failed to chance hearts and minds, not sure how one man living in the UK could do this. He did more to help slaves than almost any other human in history.

I wasn't dismissive of what he did and achieved - I applauded him for it in my post. But essentially the freedom of the slaves was bought.

I honestly didn't mean to belittle those achievements. To go Against the Grain like he did way back then was admirable

 

[BrickTamland]

Because I fact check?

Anyway I have provided NSC it's medicine today but I won't make you swallow it.

Facts irrelevant to the wider context. Anyway, as proved by your reply, you are little more than as smug contrarian who wants to be different and edgy. No doubt you think ‘virtue signalling’ is boring or sheep like behaviour, but in the context of all of this it just makes you someone who is too arrogant to put you ego aside and actually understand the wider issue.

Keep your medicine, not really sure anyone’s interested.

 

[blue-shifted]

Personally I'm amazed at the length of this thread. How is there anyone not entirely supportive of the movement? I don't see what there is to discuss

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Well, Britains far left at their finest are going to screw this country for good, currently squashed in a demo at central London.
So how the feck are we going to measure, what has happened if the r goes up again, will it be schools or will it be the brainless sheep led twots that are currently gathering in large crowds?
I said this in another thread and still it to believe very much true.

I have never ever been so disgusted by the human being species In my life, there are a large percentage of bloodthirsty hyenas on this thread.
If they took their political heads off and took in the facts, they would realise that they are actually hateful spitful people who far worse than Boris or Cummings.

Sad times.

God help these angry fecked up people, but more importantly God help the people that could get Covid and die from those super spreader idiots.

We are now currently in a oven at 220c, thanks the media left and the sheep that understand nothing but to follow.

 

[symyjym]

Facts irrelevant to the wider context. Anyway, as proved by your reply, you are little more than as smug contrarian who wants to be different and edgy. No doubt you think ‘virtue signalling’ is boring or sheep like behaviour, but in the context of all of this it just makes you someone who is too arrogant to put you ego aside and actually understand the wider issue.

Keep your medicine, not really sure anyone’s interested.

So you object to me posting some FACTS, and I am a smug, arrogant contrarian with a massive ego who wants to be different and edgy? Of course a factual truth is irrelevant because of a personal issue and I don't share your narrative?

Am I not allowed to post facts on NSC and opinions of others on NSC

The only person proving a lack of integrity is yourself as I have posted nothing offensive, only something interesting and important points missed to understand what is going on.

 

[BrickTamland]

So you object to me posting some FACTS, and I am a smug, arrogant contrarian with a massive ego who wants to be different and edgy? Of course a factual truth is irrelevant because of a personal issue and I don't share your narrative?

Am I not allowed to post facts on NSC and opinions of others on NSC

The only person proving a lack of integrity is yourself as I have posted nothing offensive, only something interesting and important points missed to understand what is going on.

Look I’m not going to take it further. I’ll admit it was OTT against your directly, but it’s more what I’m seeing across the board today. People sniping at others for being supporting of the basic premise that people shouldn’t be killed/discriminated because of the colour of their skin. Anything other than that I’ll admit, I can’t get my head around, and I’m not going to apologise for that.

 

[BrickTamland]

Well, Britains far left at their finest are going to screw this country for good, currently squashed in a demo at central London.
So how the feck are we going to measure, what has happened if the r goes up again, will it be schools or will it be the brainless sheep led twots that are currently gathering in large crowds?
I said this in another thread and still it to believe very much true.


God help these angry fecked up people, but more importantly God help the people that could get Covid and die from those super spreader idiots.

We are now currently in a oven at 220c, thanks the media left and the sheep that understand nothing but to follow.

Indeed. Awful the sheep like behaviour to suggest people being murdered because of their skin colour is something worth protesting or challenging. It’s better to be cunning racist foxes like yourselves

 

[A1X]

So how the feck are we going to measure, what has happened if the r goes up again, will it be schools or will it be the brainless sheep led twots that are currently gathering in large crowds?
I said this in another thread and still it to believe very much true.

Remind me again, when did you post in fury about the lack of regard for social distancing at the VE Day stuff the other week? I'm sure you must have done but I'd be intrigued to read it.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Well, Britains far left at their finest are going to screw this country for good, currently squashed in a demo at central London.
So how the feck are we going to measure, what has happened if the r goes up again, will it be schools or will it be the brainless sheep led twots that are currently gathering in large crowds?
I said this in another thread and still it to believe very much true.


God help these angry fecked up people, but more importantly God help the people that could get Covid and die from those super spreader idiots.

We are now currently in a oven at 220c, thanks the media left and the sheep that understand nothing but to follow.

IT'S ALL THE LEFT'S FAULT!!!

Mouldy has solved it all everyone. He's soooooo open minded about everything, how have more people not seen this?

Why even bother with elections given the Right is right, and the Left is wrong.

I said this in another thread so it must be true.

Poor Mouldy get's these various piss taking, sarcastic, satirical replies, and yet he's Right right.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Personally I'm amazed at the length of this thread. How is there anyone not entirely supportive of the movement? I don't see what there is to discuss

*cough* racists *cough*

 

[Insel affe]

Minneapolis is a Democrat led city and has been since 1976.

Please fact check the following: The Chief of Police is a Democrat, the Mayor, Governor and Attorney General are Democrats too. George Floyd's death happened under the Democratic authority and at the hands of their police.

It is ironic that the Democrats are now fanning the flames for rioting in the US and globally, when this awful event happened under their own jurisdiction. and that George Floyd is now being used as a mascot for their own political gain in the next election.

“Make of this what you will”

Ok then, point scoring....

Therefore part of the wider problem, and not addressing the sad fact of racism that is prevalent throughout white America.

Black Lives Matter is about equality, they feel their lives are dispensable, irrelevant.... It’s not about them wanting more power, it’s not about them wanting to kill whitey..... it’s about feeling, and being equal....

That is something that is paramount in today’s society, they should be very proud of what they are doing black & white.

I am incredibly proud of my Viking, Germanic, Norman heritage, and yes we were slaves, subdued, and downcast through periods of history by other tribes, Romans, whoever. Every race and creed has been subjected to tyranny of varying degrees, it’s not about point scoring, it’s about a modern fair society.
We have in recent times seen rich white people take advantage of the lower classes, first through the abhorrent slave trade, when that was deemed not acceptable, they moved on to something closer to home, the poor and children, being made to work literally as slaves in the mills and factories.
The working classes have so much in common with Black history and other ethnic people’s throughout the world, and they don’t even know it, many sadly poorly educated, many living in poverty, many prayed upon by criminal elements, many indoctrinated with race or religious hatred.
What I’m trying to say is it’s not the working class or traditional flag waving patriot that are the problem, Many with reason, can see the unfairness of life for everyone and be educated.
It is the rich elite, afraid their power is slipping... White politicians in America realising that in a decade, they won’t get enough votes, because the demographics are changing. Divide & Rule...
Today’s protesters are tomorrow’s voters, change is coming to America

Sorry about the ramble

 

[BrickTamland]

Ok then, point scoring....

Therefore part of the wider problem, and not addressing the sad fact of racism that is prevalent throughout white America.

Black Lives Matter is about equality, they feel their lives are dispensable, irrelevant.... It’s not about them wanting more power, it’s not about them wanting to kill whitey..... it’s about feeling, and being equal....

That is something that is paramount in today’s society, they should be very proud of what they are doing black & white.

I am incredibly proud of my Viking, Germanic, Norman heritage, and yes we were slaves, subdued, and downcast through periods of history by other tribes, Romans, whoever. Every race and creed has been subjected to tyranny of varying degrees, it’s not about point scoring, it’s about a modern fair society.
We have in recent times seen rich white people take advantage of the lower classes, first through the abhorrent slave trade, when that was deemed not acceptable, they moved on to something closer to home, the poor and children working as slaves in the mills and factories.
The working classes have so much in common with Black history and other ethnic people’s throughout the world, and they don’t even know it, many sadly poorly educated, many living in poverty, many prayed upon by criminal elements, many indoctrinated with race or religious hatred.
What I’m trying to say is it’s not the working class or traditional flag waving patriot that are the problem, Many with reason, can see the unfairness of life for everyone and be educated.
It is the rich elite, afraid their power is slipping... White politicians in America realising that in a decade, they won’t get enough votes, because the demographics are changing. Divide & Rule...
Today’s protesters are tomorrow’s voters, change is coming to America

Sorry about the ramble

What he said.
(wish I could be elegant in what I write and not lose my cool, but it's not easy!)