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I’m sure Mr Wares sought permission before dipping into the pot Ian?
Bold Seagull
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It is horrendous, last thing anyone needs in the middle of a pandemic.
However what should sicken everyone is that one man could and should have, with calming conciliatory words, with peaceful promise to instigate change and heal division, kept this to a few days peaceful protest confined to their own country. Instead he chose to ignite the flames in favour of electioneering.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/us/politics/jim-mattis-trump-protests.amp.html
Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
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F*** football, we are well and truly f***ed now.
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CliveWalkerWingWizard
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Whilst I do not condone vandalism, I do not think that NSC should be a platform for EDL propaganda, NSC is becoming a dangerous place.
Rudy Giuliani has just ripped Piers Morgan a new one on GMB.
https://twitter.com/gizanamenotused/status/1268438964878311425?s=20
Nixonator
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Didn’t know Karl Henry was EDL
There are hundreds of sources of that video to retweet, he just picked the wrong one.
CliveWalkerWingWizard
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Didn’t know Karl Henry was EDL
There are hundreds of sources of that video to retweet, he just picked the wrong one.
Jack Dawkins is a prominent member of EDL, and the video has a whole EDL thread attached. So by posting it NSC is a platform for EDL. I do not think that that is acceptable, but if you’re OK with it, so be it.
Nixonator
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I’m ok with someone posting an ex-footballer’s opinion on a video that was neither filmed nor originally propagated by or has anything to do with the EDL yes.
I didn't take it as a 'platform' for anything. It's simply one of dozens of videos online showing rent-a-mob trashing war memorials and lobbing things at the police, whilst not observing social distancing (despite the majority of the crowd being in higher-vulnerability categories).
Lenny Rider
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He only had to strong arm one person, but lets not get into a debate, back then, as now there are far more important things to worry about.
Horrible depressing day in London yesterday.
Young child 'critical' and among four people shot in London http://news.sky.com/story/young-child-critical-and-among-four-people-shot-in-london-12000172
Young child 'critical' and among four people shot in London http://news.sky.com/story/young-child-critical-and-among-four-people-shot-in-london-12000172
I posted a link from Karl Henry a black footballer. I've never heard of Jack Dawkins, nor do I support the EDL in any way.
Once again, I agree with Karl Henry, who it seems had the same point highlighted to him that you have done here...
"Apparently the post I retweeted and commented on was from a supporter of Tommy Robinson.
Although I didn’t realise this at the time, it doesn’t change my view on the content of the video so won’t be deleting my post.
For the record, I think Tommy Robinson is racist scum too."
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HellBilly
This.
Unfortunately acts as shown in the video posted are relevant and, sadly have nothing to do with or help the BLM cause and message.
Those committing those criminal acts, don't realise that it only feeds on insecurities and plays into others hands to spread, and perpetuate hate.
Sad.
CliveWalkerWingWizard
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I think you are missing the point, I doubt Karl Henry knew he was tweeting an EDL thread, but this is how these organisations work and spread their agenda. By posting the thread you are spreading EDL propaganda, all be it unintentionally.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...black-lives-matter-london-video-a9547951.html
George Floyd protests: Australian TV crew accosted by demonstrators live on air in London
Footage shows TV crew fleeing towards parliament
George Floyd protests: Australian TV crew accosted by demonstrators live on air in London
Footage shows TV crew fleeing towards parliament
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HellBilly
Playing devils advocate here, that video is real, those acts did occur, and the acts committed have nothing to do with BLM, and are utterly disgusting to desecrate a war memmorial to the fallen who fought for freedom from persicuation.
If you were there and saw it first hand is it propaganda ?
If you see it on youtube does it then become propaganda ? or do we ignore it ?
As I see it the video only becomes EDL propaganda if you subscribe to the message of racial hatred.
As stated in my previous post "Those committing those criminal acts, don't realise that it only feeds on insecurities and plays into others hands to spread, and perpetuate hate"
The Wizard
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It’s really quite sad because a socially distanced and peaceful protest would have felt far more poignant and would have given far more support to the cause, what those thugs are doing and have done is utterly shameful and they must be brought to account, right or wrong reasons behind the initial protest things like that can’t be allowed to happen.
What’s more shocking to me is that there wasn’t some kind of plan put in place for this, considering scenes we’ve seen around the world it was always going to end in a minority of thugs taking the law into their own hands yet I see poor unarmed police officers being assaulted, I understand the hands off approach initially as they could incite violence but seeing totally helpless police officers like that is really shocking.
What’s more shocking to me is that there wasn’t some kind of plan put in place for this, considering scenes we’ve seen around the world it was always going to end in a minority of thugs taking the law into their own hands yet I see poor unarmed police officers being assaulted, I understand the hands off approach initially as they could incite violence but seeing totally helpless police officers like that is really shocking.
Uh_huh_him
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This!
Razzoo
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I t looks like London is the dangerous place to me. Not NSC
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