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[Misc] Black History Month-Armistice Day



GT49er

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What is it with right wing loons and getting stuff rammed down their throats? Doesn't seem to happen to the rest of us.

Try shutting your mouths for a minute, lads.

Festival of Remembrance going on - Remembrance Sunday tomorrow. Perhaps both fvcking sides could try shutting the fvck up for 24 hours, eh?
 








GT49er

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All sides reserve the right to call people out when they're being dicks.

Sorry, mustn't ask you to give up your rights for a moment - far more important than anything else, eh?

Lest we forget (but not all of us, it would seem).
 


lawros left foot

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The Royal British Legion is just one of 1,500 Armed Forces charities. Between them they are sitting on assess of 3.1 Billion pounds.

There are estimated to be between 6,000 to 13,000 homeless veterans.

4,000 ex service personnel are presently serving prison time, mainly for violence caused by drink/ drug abuse. A product of PTSD.

The CEO of the British Legion earns £150,000 plus per annum.

I have an acquaintance who used to fund raise for Combat Stress , ( a Forces mental health charity) . He didn’t receive any renunciation for his work, he is a multi millionaire, so, didn’t need it. He told me of an annual dinner held by the charity , at the Savoy in London. He was the only person in the room who wasn’t paid by the charity, it was a huge bean feast for the great and good, all paid for by charity donations.

He resigned the next day.
 
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Thunder Bolt

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The Royal British Legion is just one of 1,500 Armed Forces charities. Between them they are sitting on assess of 3.1 Billion pounds.

There are estimated to be between 6,000 to 13,000 homeless veterans.

4,000 ex service personnel are presently serving prison time, mainly for violence caused by drink/ drug abuse. A product of PTSD.

The CEO of the British Legion earns £150,000 plus per annum.

I have an acquaintance who used to fund raise for Combat Stress , ( a Forces mental health charity) . He didn’t receive any renunciation for his work, he is a multi millionaire, so, didn’t need it. He told me of an annual dinner held by the charity , at the Savoy in London. He was the only person in the room who wasn’t paid by the charity, it was a huge bean feast for the great and good, all paid for by charity donations.

He resigned the next day.

This is the reason that Help for Heroes, Soldiers off the Streets, and other veteran’s charities have started because not enough money raised, was actually getting through to the people who needed it most.
The RBL does need a shake up.
 




lawros left foot

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This is the reason that Help for Heroes, Soldiers off the Streets, and other veteran’s charities have started because not enough money raised, was actually getting through to the people who needed it most.
The RBL does need a shake up.


I maybe out of order, but, I really believe if your Government asks you to go and risk life and limb for Queen and Country, maybe said Government should pick up the tab for those who make the ultimate sacrifice, or are seriously injured, instead of leaving it to public sympathy in the way of charitable donations to fund the poor souls who pay the butcher’s bill.
If Governments had to properly fund Veteran care, maybe they wouldn’t be so keen to send our Armed Forces into harms way.
 




Thunder Bolt

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I maybe out of order, but, I really believe if your Government asks you to go and risk life and limb for Queen and Country, maybe said Government should pick up the tab for those who make the ultimate sacrifice, or are seriously injured, instead of leaving it to public sympathy in the way of charitable donations to fund the poor souls who pay the butcher’s bill.
If Governments had to properly fund Veteran care, maybe they wouldn’t be so keen to send our Armed Forces into harms way.

It has ever been thus, from all sides of the political spectrum, which is why we have Benevolent Trusts as well a the civvy charities.
 








Chicken Run

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I maybe out of order, but, I really believe if your Government asks you to go and risk life and limb for Queen and Country, maybe said Government should pick up the tab for those who make the ultimate sacrifice, or are seriously injured, instead of leaving it to public sympathy in the way of charitable donations to fund the poor souls who pay the butcher’s bill.
If Governments had to properly fund Veteran care, maybe they wouldn’t be so keen to send our Armed Forces into harms way.

I was seriously injured serving Q&C and as well as ongoing medical costs, I receive a war pension, this dating back to 1993.


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Goldstone1976

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I was seriously injured serving Q&C and as well as ongoing medical costs, I receive a war pension, this dating back to 1993.


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My father was injured on active duty and received a monthly tax-free war pension; my mother continues to receive a tax-free war widows (as well as a taxable RAF widows) pension. Combined, these provide an after tax income the same as my partner’s pre-tax salary (she works full time as a Research Fellow at a major London uni).

From my limited experience, it does appear that there is wild variation in how the Gov’t treats our ex service personnel. Dad, and now Mum, was/is treated really very generously; other people that I personally know materially less so, for what, to me, are pretty spurious reasons.

I’ll be at the front door with Mum at 11am, supporting her as she gently cries in remembrance of all manner of different people.
 


Thunder Bolt

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My father was injured on active duty and received a monthly tax-free war pension; my mother continues to receive a tax-free war widows (as well as a taxable RAF widows) pension. Combined, these provide an after tax income the same as my partner’s pre-tax salary (she works full time as a Research Fellow at a major London uni).

From my limited experience, it does appear that there is wild variation in how the Gov’t treats our ex service personnel. Dad, and now Mum, was/is treated really very generously; other people that I personally know materially less so, for what, to me, are pretty spurious reasons.

I’ll be at the front door with Mum at 11am, supporting her as she gently cries in remembrance of all manner of different people.

Physical injuries do seem to be covered but stress/PTSD was ignored for far too long. Homelessness is part of that where marriages break up under the strain.
 




Chicken Run

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Physical injuries do seem to be covered but stress/PTSD was ignored for far too long. Homelessness is part of that where marriages break up under the strain.

In 93 as well as being treated for physical injuries I was treated for PTSD by Dr Gordon Turnbell the leading authority at Ticehurst House in East Sussex paid for by the MOD, a month long residential stay.


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We've just spent 31 days having black history month rammed down our throats. All forms of media have highlighted music, films, shows, actors and everyone who isn't white. Coming up next Wednesday, in my mind, is the most important date in the year, Armistice Day. This remembrance day does not single out colour, race, religion or sexuality, yet it is only afforded a few weeks of low profile attention. Due to the current situation poppy sales are few and far between, which will inevitably lead to a great reduction in the funds to our service personal. If you haven't been able to donate please go on the Royal British legion website where you can donate and will receive a printable poppy to put in your window. Without our service people over the years we wouldn't have forums like NSC to air our free speech.


 


arfer guinness

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You’ve still got it wrong. Stop digging.

As they say you can learn something every day. Where have I got it wrong that the 1st World War ended on the 11th of November with the signing of the armistice. This day has always been Armistice or Remembrance Day. Remembrance Sunday is the official day for remembrance and services that falls on the closest Sunday to Armistice Day to remember all fallen in all wars, the second Sunday in November. Please let me know as I am interested.
 


Randy McNob

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I've skimmed this admittedly but are we not allowed to celebrate black history month and remember the sacrifices made by our armed forces, past and present?

Is it one or t'other now? Did I miss a memo?

divide and rule
 






sydney

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In 93 as well as being treated for physical injuries I was treated for PTSD by Dr Gordon Turnbell the leading authority at Ticehurst House in East Sussex paid for by the MOD, a month long residential stay.


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fair play for putting that out there ....hope none of the resident , serially offended , smart arses use it against you on this or any other thread .....this board is really going through a bit of a metamorphic stage at the moment ....:rolleyes:
 


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