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BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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It's most unlike a certain poster to be negative about Albion players.
If only they played for Spurs.

Obviously you trying and yet once again failing to be humorous or sarcastic If I was you I should give up trying as you are failing miserably.

As I have said many times I like Bissouma and think that he has great potential but cannot continue with this 'he is young' line of defence for his shortcomings and would cite both Guendouzi or Arsenal, Foden of Man City both younger than Yves and Loftus-Cheek of Chelsea, 6 months older of examples of players that are young but can perform at the top level.
 


BrickTamland

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Mar 2, 2010
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Brighton
Obviously you trying and yet once again failing to be humorous or sarcastic If I was you I should give up trying as you are failing miserably.

As I have said many times I like Bissouma and think that he has great potential but cannot continue with this 'he is young' line of defence for his shortcomings and would cite both Guendouzi or Arsenal, Foden of Man City both younger than Yves and Loftus-Cheek of Chelsea, 6 months older of examples of players that are young but can perform at the top level.

Not sure away at Newport is performing at the top level. The fourth to be precise
 




Seasidesage

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May 19, 2009
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Bissoumas real ability is in the speed of his transition. When he wins the ball and brings it forward he seems to get from our box to the opposition box very, very. quickly. I think for this reason he doesn't really affect a game so much when he plays as a number 10. I know we have tried and failed with it before but I really think 3 at the back would suit us now and provide a platform for Bissouma in CM by allowing us to play 3 in there. Not that I think it'll happen and given our league position it probably shouldn't before the summer.It would also suit Bernardo and given our recent weakenss with set peices another CD wouldn't go amiss.
 






Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Fiveways
March has also started as a number 10.....

Yes, but he hasn't done so since about October. He's played on the wing since then, mostly on the right. So if Bissouma were to currently replace March -- which is one of the two options you've proposed -- then he'd be playing on the wing. Is this so difficult to understand?
 


BensGrandad

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Yet to start a prem game and hasn’t played in many big matches, not enough for your comment to be accurate at least

No big games :



Games played by Phil Foden in 2018/2019
GLS YEL RED
FA COMMUNITY SHIELD Su 05Aug 2018
Chelsea 0 - 2 Man City
PREMIER LEAGUE Su 19Aug 2018
Man City 6 - 1 Huddersfield
PREMIER LEAGUE Sa 22Sep 2018
Cardiff 0 - 5 Man City
EFL CUP Tu 25Sep 2018
Oxford 0 - 3 Man City
1 goal1
PREMIER LEAGUE Sa 29Sep 2018
Man City 2 - 0 Brighton
PREMIER LEAGUE Sa 20Oct 2018
Man City 5 - 0 Burnley
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE Tu 23Oct 2018
Shakhtar 0 - 3 Man City
ENGLISH LEAGUE CUP Th 01Nov 2018
Man City 2 - 0 Fulham
PREMIER LEAGUE Su 04Nov 2018
Man City 6 - 1 Southampton
PREMIER LEAGUE Su 11Nov 2018
Man City 3 - 1 Man Utd
PREMIER LEAGUE Sa 24Nov 2018
West Ham 0 - 4 Man City
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE Tu 27Nov 2018
Lyon 2 - 2 Man City
PREMIER LEAGUE Sa 08Dec 2018
Chelsea 2 - 0 Man City
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE We 12Dec 2018
Man City 2 - 1 Hoffenheim
ENGLISH LEAGUE CUP Tu 18Dec 2018
Leicester 1 - 1 Man City

ENGLISH FA CUP Su 06Jan 2019
Man City 7 - 0 Rotherham
1 goal1
ENGLISH LEAGUE CUP We 09Jan 2019
Man City 9 - 0 Burton
1 goal1
ENGLISH LEAGUE CUP We 23Jan 2019
Burton 0 - 1 Man City
ENGLISH FA CUP Sa 26Jan 2019
Man City 5 - 0 Burnley
ENGLISH FA CUP Sa 16Feb 2019
Newport Co 1 - 4 Man City
2 goals2
Appearances:20Totals:
5
1
0
 






Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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Thanks for proving [MENTION=16091]BrickTamland[/MENTION] 's point.



ECS 05-08-2018 Chelsea 0 : 2 Manchester City 76' - Charity Shield
EPL 19-08-2018 Manchester City 6 : 1 Huddersfield 8' Game won before subbed on.
EPL 22-09-2018 Cardiff 0 : 5 Manchester City 21' Game won before subbed on
EFLC 25-09-2018 Oxford 0 : 3 Manchester City 90' League Cup v Oxford
EPL 29-09-2018 Manchester City 2 : 0 Brighton 2' Time wasting substitute with the game won
EPL 20-10-2018 Manchester City 5 : 0 Burnley 15' Game won before subbed on.
UCL 23-10-2018 Shakhtar Donetsk 0 : 3 Manchester City 3' Game won before subbed on.
EFLC 31-11-2018 Manchester City 2 : 0 Fulham 90' League Cup
EPL 04-11-2018 Manchester City 6 : 1 Southampton 18' Game won before subbed on.
EPL 11-11-2018 Manchester City 3 : 1 Manchester United 0' Time wasting sub.
EPL 24-11-2018 West Ham 0 : 4 Manchester City 21' Game won before subbed on.
UCL 27-11-2018 Lyon 2 : 2 Manchester City 0' Time wasting sub.
EPL 08-12-2018 Chelsea 2 : 0 Manchester City 6' Game lost before subbed on.
UCL 12-12-2018 Manchester City 2 : 1 Hoffenheim 90' Dead rubber
EFLC 18-12-2018 Leicester 1 : 1 Manchester City 90' League cup.
FAC 06-01-2019 Manchester City 7 : 0 Rotherham 90' FAC v Rotherham
EFLC 09-01-2019 Manchester City 9 : 0 Burton 32' Game won before subbed on.
EFLC 23-01-2019 Burton 0 : 1 Manchester City 90' Dead rubber
FAC 26-01-2019 Manchester City 5 : 0 Burnley 15' Game won before subbed on
FAC 16-02-2019 Newport 1 : 4 Manchester City 90' v Newport.


I take it you're going to now admit you were wrong and apologize?
 
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BensGrandad

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When during a game that he came on is immaterial as he still played against top teams and he is only 18 years old,or do we discount Gyokeres, Kayal, Knockaerts sub appearances.
 




Weststander

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When during a game that he came on is immaterial as he still played against top teams and he is only 18 years old,or do we discount Gyokeres, Kayal, Knockaerts sub appearances.

Players develop at different rates. Owen, Rooney and Gerrard were stars by 18, Beckham went out briefly on loan to Preston before establishing himself at 20 in the Man team, Kane after several loans became a Spuds regular selection at 21.
 


BensGrandad

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Players develop at different rates. Owen, Rooney and Gerrard were stars by 18, Beckham went out briefly on loan to Preston before establishing himself at 20 in the Man team, Kane after several loans became a Spuds regular selection at 21.

I totally agree but making the point that the argument when he makes a mistake ' that he is young' doesnt wash with me.
 


Stat Brother

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Players develop at different rates. Owen, Rooney and Gerrard were stars by 18, Beckham went out briefly on loan to Preston before establishing himself at 20 in the Man team, Kane after several loans became a Spuds regular selection at 21.

BG is right though because I don't remember what the scores were when Foden came on.

For example City might have only been 1-0 up v Burton with 30 mins to go before running up a further 8 goals.

Much the same could be said about the games v Burnley, Huddersfield, Cardiff & West Ham.
Not to mention the less than a minute performances against Lyon & Utd.
 




Exile

Objective but passionate
Aug 10, 2014
2,367
I totally agree but making the point that the argument when he makes a mistake ' that he is young' doesnt wash with me.

I think it depends on the nature of the ‘mistake’. If it is deficiencies in technique I might agree to some extent. But it is very, very clear that Bissouma’s main definciency is poor decision-making. That is something that unquestionably improves with experience and game time.
 


Two Professors

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Jul 13, 2009
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I see a player with a big smile on his face,loving his football,future superstar!:thumbsup:
 


Weststander

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I totally agree but making the point that the argument when he makes a mistake ' that he is young' doesnt wash with me.

He’s learning his trade, fast. At Anfield in August he was a law unto himself, a haphazard performance with no strong structure to his game. He’s markedly improved already.
 


A mex eyecan

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Nov 3, 2011
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I totally agree but making the point that the argument when he makes a mistake ' that he is young' doesnt wash with me.

and when you were learning the skills of your trade as a young kid you never made a howler? and if you did would you just expect people straight on your back, or as most sensible onlookers would do would be to think and accept its all part of the growing experience.

Experienced players make fewer mistakes, but experienced players have learned from the mistakes they made. If you don’t make mistakes along the way then your playing in a comfort zone bubble. But perhaps BG you were born fully experienced.
 




Exile

Objective but passionate
Aug 10, 2014
2,367
and when you were learning the skills of your trade as a young kid you never made a howler? and if you did would you just expect people straight on your back, or as most sensible onlookers would do would be to think and accept its all part of the growing experience.

Experienced players make fewer mistakes, but experienced players have learned from the mistakes they made. If you don’t make mistakes along the way then your playing in a comfort zone bubble. But perhaps BG you were born fully experienced.

I don’t think it’s a wild assumption, to guess that BG has always known it all, tbh.
 


BensGrandad

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Everybody has to learn but as I have pointed out he does some phenomenal things then compounds them by mistakes straight afterwards and I do not think that 22 is young in terms of footballers learning their trade , perhaps I am being too hard on him and expect too much from him. I would think that he has probably been a pro longer than Solly March just as an example, although 2 years younger.
 


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