Billy Sharp - tweaked his ankle a little bit. (but with God's grace, might live)

[DanielT]

See, given the number of replies on here, I assumed you lot were as fascinated by this thread as we are.

I take it the love-in has finally ended then?

The love in with you? Yes it has. Other Doncaster fans on here have been quite reasonable. You are something else! Are you his mum or something?

 

[pork pie]

And its really disappointing to somebody who believed all the apparent crap about the mutual respect of our fans.

I have been to both your old and new grounds. I am sorry to say that I have never seen any evidence of it there. Indeed, I and my two sons were subjected to extreme provocation by a large group of your chav fans in the corner of your old car park in 2006, just before it all kicked-off when our lads saw what was going on and got after them.

 

[Diar]

I thought Billy Sharp was playing with a pre-existing injury. I think that was why it took so long to take him off. That's why the Albion fans have got a little impatient ?

Not that I know of... honestly. I saw him pre season and never got a whiff of it. Could be wrong though.
I know what happens in stadiums in the heat of the moment. What happened was unfortunate, but not something I'd get too hung up on. What really baffles me is the heated nastiness of most postings on here, in the cold light of day. All I ever said was that I was devastated if Bill was seriously injured... and just look at the unfounded visciousness of the replies I've had.
Ive got a fridge magnet that says: " the more people I meet, the more I like my dog." Most of the posters on here just reinforce that view.

 

[DanielT]

Look at it from my view point.... how would you translate it?

As an over-reaction?

 

[Diar]

I have been to both your old and new grounds. I am sorry to say that I have never seen any evidence of it there. Indeed, I and my two sons were subjected to extreme provocation by a large group of your chav fans in the corner of your old car park in 2006, just before it all kicked-off when our lads saw what was going on and got after them.

That's sad. I was there and never saw anything, but I believe you, of course.
Just for a while I had a little bit of belief that things could change, and that we could prove it... you, know, decent people like us. But its sobering to realise that the morons will always win... they'll always get the headlines and will always destroy any decency in football.

 

[Diar]

As an over-reaction?

Really? Please read what I've had to put up with on here, and ask yourself how you would feel.
Then again, I cant expect you to do that... theres so much of it.

 

[DanielT]

Really? Please read what I've had to put up with on here, and ask yourself how you would feel.
Then again, I cant expect you to do that... theres so much of it.

I'd probably feel like I was hitting my head against a brick wall. But the best thing to do in that situation is stop.

I don't think I have read that any Brighton fans are pleased that Billy got injured - no one in their right mind wants to see someone getting hurt like that. I really hope he recovers quickly, and that it doesn't effect your season too much

 

[bhaexpress]

Although I'm glad nether player is as badly hurt as was first thought the reaction of Donny's Number two was pure number two.

From the Sheffield Star -

Rovers No 2 Richard O’Kelly, not known for making controversial claims, described the tackle on Sharp by Brighton defender Lewis Dunk as being ‘horrendous’.

“I thought it was a spiteful and nasty challenge,” he added. “After the two yellow cards which we got in the first half it must have been a red.”

Mate, are you a complete twat or not ? It's a moot point whether the tackles that got them two yellows were any worse than Dunk's but frankly Mr O'Kelly you've made a bit of a tit of yourself.

 

[Billy Stubbs' Tears]

The love in with you? Yes it has. Other Doncaster fans on here have been quite reasonable. You are something else! Are you his mum or something?

Cheers mate. I am a long standing admirer of your club's efforts to get over the problems you've had and am genuinely chuffed for you that you're so well on the up.

Remind me. Where exactly have I been unreasonable? I've posted on here to add to the debate about whether Dunk's tackle was or was not the sort that gets players badly hurt. I've given fact-based comments (pretty much) all the way through. I've given my interpretation on precisely why there was (in my opinion) a qualitative difference between Dunk's tackle and Naylor. Does that not pass as reasonableness down south these days?

You lot are free of course to ignore all that, to argue against the interpretation or to act like bairns.

 

[Edgefield]

What a load of nonsense..

Firstly I think we will see a multitude of tackles worse than Dunk's on a weekly basis. Key was Tv proves, and Ive just checked again, it wasnt from behind or from head on. Naylor's could have been a horror one if Barnes hadnt sen him coming. But even that is nothing compared to Vassell's tackle now; that is worthy of 20 plus pages of debate....

And do you really think people you argue with on message boards typify all fans support, if you do you are obviously not very bright...

That's sad. I was there and never saw anything, but I believe you, of course.
Just for a while I had a little bit of belief that things could change, and that we could prove it... you, know, decent people like us. But its sobering to realise that the morons will always win... they'll always get the headlines and will always destroy any decency in football.

 

[perseus]

Not that I know of... honestly. I saw him pre season and never got a whiff of it. Could be wrong though.
I know what happens in stadiums in the heat of the moment. What happened was unfortunate, but not something I'd get too hung up on. What really baffles me is the heated nastiness of most postings on here, in the cold light of day. All I ever said was that I was devastated if Bill was seriously injured... and just look at the unfounded visciousness of the replies I've had.
Ive got a fridge magnet that says: " the more people I meet, the more I like my dog." Most of the posters on here just reinforce that view.

At a rough guess, I would say he had a thigh strain.

 

[pork pie]

Cheers mate. I am a long standing admirer of your club's efforts to get over the problems you've had and am genuinely chuffed for you that you're so well on the up.

Remind me. Where exactly have I been unreasonable? I've posted on here to add to the debate about whether Dunk's tackle was or was not the sort that gets players badly hurt. I've given fact-based comments (pretty much) all the way through. I've given my interpretation on precisely why there was (in my opinion) a qualitative difference between Dunk's tackle and Naylor. Does that not pass as reasonableness down south these days?

You lot are free of course to ignore all that, to argue against the interpretation or to act like bairns.

Have you actually taken time out to have a good hard look at the incident? If you had, you would see that Sharp was to his right with the ref in front of him. When Dunk committed to the tackle (and it was clumsy) he could see the ball. Sharpe then quickly shifts to the left to avoid the Ref, thus moving into the path of Dunk's tackle. Clumsy yes, deliberate - not in a million years. If Sharpe had continued going right the tackle would have been outstanding - but he didn't, and the rest is history as they say.

 

[Diar]

I'd probably feel like I was hitting my head against a brick wall. But the best thing to do in that situation is stop.

I don't think I have read that any Brighton fans are pleased that Billy got injured - no one in their right mind wants to see someone getting hurt like that. I really hope he recovers quickly, and that it doesn't effect your season too much

After that response I think I just might. All I was looking for was recognition of the fact that I wasnt being abusive etc.

 

[xenophon]

Ive got a fridge magnet that says: " the more people I meet, the more I like my dog." Most of the posters on here just reinforce that view.

And yet here you are, still posting away, methinks thou doth protest too much

You don't like how we roll here? No worries, feel free to f*** off to another part of the internet as soon as is convenient

Bye bye

 

[Billy Stubbs' Tears]

Have you actually taken time out to have a good hard look at the incident? If you had, you would see that Sharp was to his right with the ref in front of him. When Dunk committed to the tackle (and it was clumsy) he could see the ball. Sharpe then quickly shifts to the left to avoid the Ref, thus moving into the path of Dunk's tackle. Clumsy yes, deliberate - not in a million years. If Sharpe had continued going right the tackle would have been outstanding - but he didn't, and the rest is history as they say.

Yes I have. I wouldn't comment on ANY tackle in ANY match without taking a good long look at the evidence. I've been wrong far too many times when spouting off at the match in person, then seen a totally different story on video.

Go have a look at the pdf I posted a couple of pages back. There's no point giving opinion when the images of the tackle are there, frame by frame. It's patently clear from those images that Dunk could never have made contact with the ball from the angle that he was approaching without hammering into Sharp. The issue about Sharp moving to the left is, frankly, rubbish. Firstly, he didn't. Secondly, the ball did not change direction from the moment Dunk went aerial to the moment he hit Sharp. Thirdly, Dunk's foot was NEVER aimed at the ball (it was aimed on a line a yard to the right of the ball). Given Dunk's angle of approach, the only way he could possibly have been on trajectory to intercept the ball was if Sharp HAD moved the ball to the left. But if he HAD done, he'd have moved his left leg still further in the way of the challenge.

It's a plain as day. It's either a deliberately aimed tackle at Sharp's leg, or it's as incompetently aimed a tackle as you will ever see, a full yard away from the ball. You CANNOT do that if you are tackling as strongly as Dunk did. It is totally reckless and extremely dangerous. It's is a cast iron example of the sort of tackle that is supposed to end in a straight red card.

If you disagree with any of that, feel free to look at the images and give me an alternative explanation. The only one I've seen is based on the assumption that Sharp was expected to suddenly stop running from the moment Dunk took off.

And by the way, I do, regularly point the finger at our own players for similar things. Sharp himself got away with a yellow card for an appalling challenge on Shackell in our match against Barnsley last year and should have been sent off for it.

 

[Diar]

What a load of nonsense..

Firstly I think we will see a multitude of tackles worse than Dunk's on a weekly basis. Key was Tv proves, and Ive just checked again, it wasnt from behind or from head on. Naylor's could have been a horror one if Barnes hadnt sen him coming. But even that is nothing compared to Vassell's tackle now; that is worthy of 20 plus pages of debate....

And do you really think people you argue with on message boards typify all fans support, if you do you are obviously not very bright...

Did you mean my post was nonsense... or BST's?
I was just responding to a lad who'd seen violence from people at Donny. I also said that the morons will always get the headlines over decent fans ie not all fans are morons.
Thats all I said... and I get two more insults added to the list... that I talk nonsense, and that I'm not very bright. This time by a BHA fan who, presumably, sees himself as reasonable.
What a world!

 

[matt]

 

[pork pie]

Yes I have. I wouldn't comment on ANY tackle in ANY match without taking a good long look at the evidence. I've been wrong far too many times when spouting off at the match in person, then seen a totally different story on video.

Go have a look at the pdf I posted a couple of pages back. There's no point giving opinion when the images of the tackle are there, frame by frame. It's patently clear from those images that Dunk could never have made contact with the ball from the angle that he was approaching without hammering into Sharp. The issue about Sharp moving to the left is, frankly, rubbish. Firstly, he didn't. Secondly, the ball did not change direction from the moment Dunk went aerial to the moment he hit Sharp. Thirdly, Dunk's foot was NEVER aimed at the ball (it was aimed on a line a yard to the right of the ball). Given Dunk's angle of approach, the only way he could possibly have been on trajectory to intercept the ball was if Sharp HAD moved the ball to the left. But if he HAD done, he'd have moved his left leg still further in the way of the challenge.

It's a plain as day. It's either a deliberately aimed tackle at Sharp's leg, or it's as incompetently aimed a tackle as you will ever see, a full yard away from the ball. You CANNOT do that if you are tackling as strongly as Dunk did. It is totally reckless and extremely dangerous. It's is a cast iron example of the sort of tackle that is supposed to end in a straight red card.

If you disagree with any of that, feel free to look at the images and give me an alternative explanation. The only one I've seen is based on the assumption that Sharp was expected to suddenly stop running from the moment Dunk took off.

And by the way, I do, regularly point the finger at our own players for similar things. Sharp himself got away with a yellow card for an appalling challenge on Shackell in our match against Barnsley last year and should have been sent off for it.

Maybe you could post the tackles on LuaLua and Barnes as well then? I am sure we would differ about those as well.

 

[murraymints4brighton]

I cannot beleive this thread has gone on for so long! Yes it is a shame that Sharp fot injured, I hope he recovers. Dunks tackle was bad, as was Naylor's and they both should have gone for them however the ref on the day was piss poor, had no control of the game and in my opinion that is why we now have a 23 page thread. The comments from your assistant are a joke. Doncaster came with a game plan to give our more attacking players not a second of time and to ruff them up while they continued to play there quite attractive football. Gus I'm sure influences our team in the same way. Fair play, nobody wants to play good football and be a pushover.

But for the assistant to come out and say, "‘horrendous’.“I thought it was a spiteful and nasty challenge,” he added. “After the two yellow cards which we got in the first half it must have been a red.” is a f***ing joke! Dunk is an 18 year old defender who has made a mistake. GET OVER YOURSELF. Naylor, who must be about 35, put in an equally HORRENDOUS challenge on Barness. If you think that is a yellow and Dunk's is a red then sir you are a complete twat.

 

[Diar]

And yet here you are, still posting away, methinks thou doth protest too much

You don't like how we roll here? No worries, feel free to f*** off to another part of the internet as soon as is convenient

Bye bye

I promise you, I will "f*** off" you foul-mouthed, moronic, viscious, pathetically supercillious, thick bastard!

There, thats better... I got to let off steam against the sick bag of twats that have surfaced on this forum. Try to talk like adults?
Even I realise that there's absolutely no chance of that when most of the posters have got f***ing ASBO's and couldnt hold a conversation if you even understood the word.
This thread has been the most unreasonable, nasty piece of reading that I've ever had on ANY forum. I know you'll probably be proud of that but, frankly, I've given up caring what any of you think any more. Even I realise its been like talking to a brick wall.

It doesnt matter... you dont matter. Hope you get what you deserve in life.
Now... let me get out of here!!