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[Football] Biggest club never to have won a major trophy



Eeyore

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Pah! It was reported on the FRONT PAGE of The Times.

(When it had at least 10/20 stories on a single page)
I know we say that, but the Charity Shield meant little in those days. About as relevant as Palace's Simod Cup triumph I'm afraid.
It meant a lot. It was a play-off between the Southern League and the Football League (mostly northern based). The winner was crowned Champions of all England.

So Brighton were the Champions in 1910. I found that amusing when Leicester City fans sang the 'you'll never say that chant'. My grandfather did.
 




Lady Whistledown

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If they are then Bristol City are.

You see, I reckon I could go through the whole of the 92 clubs in the Premier League and Football League and, without too much difficulty, put each into the category of Small, Medium or Large (ok, Big) clubs. There might be a few up for debate, but most are fairly straightforward. And it doesn't necessarily equate to league status. I'd put somebody like Bradford City as a medium sized club despite being in the lower leagues, and Bournemouth as a small club despite being in the Premier League and spending more money than all of leagues One and Two put together.

Bristol City are definitely a Medium sized club, who could actually become a Big Club if they ever achieved anything. It's a big enough city, albeit one with two senior clubs in. Their owner is one of the richest people in Britain, but he seems to run them quite sensibly, fortunately for them, and- not unlike Tony Bloom- has worked hard on the infrastructure. It's strange that they've never really done much despite, on paper, having far more potential for success than, say, Burnley, Blackpool, Luton, Reading or any number of clubs who've played in the Premier League. It must be the early 1980s that they were last in the top division now.
 


Sid and the Sharknados

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I don't claim to know better, it was 113 years ago - but how do you know what people thought of it back then?
For my part, I'm basing my opinion on the evidence that hardly anybody turned up and it was played on a day when nobody would be expected to.
I don't think for one moment that when Newcastle United beat Northampton Town in front of 7000 the preceding year (match played on Wednesday 28th April) that they congratulated themselves on confirming they were the best team in the country. I'd say the same about Man U beating Swindon Town in front of 10,000 the following year.
I'd say that they at least seemed to have settled into a routine of playing the game on a Monday in September by then, except in 1912 they played the match on a Saturday in May (attendance 7,111). That year the proceeds were apparently donated to the Titanic Relief Fund.

The next year they gave up on the whole "winner of the football league v winner of the southern league" thing.
 


Weststander

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You see, I reckon I could go through the whole of the 92 clubs in the Premier League and Football League and, without too much difficulty, put each into the category of Small, Medium or Large (ok, Big) clubs. There might be a few up for debate, but most are fairly straightforward. And it doesn't necessarily equate to league status. I'd put somebody like Bradford City as a medium sized club despite being in the lower leagues, and Bournemouth as a small club despite being in the Premier League and spending more money than all of leagues One and Two put together.

Bristol City are definitely a Medium sized club, who could actually become a Big Club if they ever achieved anything. It's a big enough city, albeit one with two senior clubs in. Their owner is one of the richest people in Britain, but he seems to run them quite sensibly, fortunately for them, and- not unlike Tony Bloom- has worked hard on the infrastructure. It's strange that they've never really done much despite, on paper, having far more potential for success than, say, Burnley, Blackpool, Luton, Reading or any number of clubs who've played in the Premier League. It must be the early 1980s that they were last in the top division now.

Steve Lansdown has in the past mentioned the Albion/TB as the football club model he admires and follows.
 






Lady Whistledown

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I suppose, however you look at it, claiming the Charity Shield is a major trophy is still more credible than pretending for entirely commercial purposes that your club was founded in 1861.
 


Taybha

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MK Dons,the chairman thought it was a excellent idea to build a 25k stadium for shits and giggles and not because they were going to take on the elite clubs of the world in their lovely new stadium,they even managed to get the queen to open it,I think that's their biggest crowd to date.
 


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Hamilton

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So should this thread really be about clubs who have never won the First Division (or equivalent), League Cup, FA Cup, or decent European trophy (ie European Cup or equivalent, Cup Winners Cup, UEFA Cup, Europa League or Europa conference.)
 


Motogull

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Oh please let it be us to leave that list first! As the lovely @Hillian1 used to say of that lot, 'we are their world' and seeing how excited they got about our recent clean sheet run, can you imagine how they would love beating us to a first major trophy?

Ideally, that lot will be the sole name on that list in due course.
 






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