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Eeyore

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Wardy's twin

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Oct 21, 2014
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There's an awful lot of people jumping to conclusions before they see the evidence. It also seems that in the eyes of the law and many non-football fans that all football fans are hooligans who have to prove themselves innocent. I suspect all these bans are token sacrifices to appease the FA/FIFA because there had been talk about banning England.

If there is evidence then it really needs to be in the public domain then the debate can stop.

One last word on though, sometimes enough is enough and you have to stick up for yourself, your friends and what you believe, so even fighting is not necessary wrong and this comes from someone who is and has NOT been a football hooligan.
 


Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
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Born In Shoreham
Not sure why the albion feel the need to add their own sentence after a court of law has given theirs.

I neither condemn nor defend those involved as I don't know the facts, but even if the facts are pretty damning, indefinitely is a long time.
Because they see families as the biggest cash cow?
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Prague, Czech Republic
I was in the square that day - I managed to run BUT if I was I a bar I would have chucked anything near me at them to protect me and my mates- believe me when you are in that situation you are in survival mode and no one really knows how they would react

If there's videos of them charging around looking for a fight then the ban I would agree with but I guarantee you they were just like me and my mates that we're having a great time in the square and some beers and got run at by hundreds of armed Russians.

I'm disgusted fellow Brighton fans so quick to assume the worst of everyone and jump on their high horses

The banning order results for an incident that was an hour or two before the Russian organized thugs came into the square.
 






daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
There's an awful lot of people jumping to conclusions before they see the evidence. It also seems that in the eyes of the law and many non-football fans that all football fans are hooligans who have to prove themselves innocent. I suspect all these bans are token sacrifices to appease the FA/FIFA because there had been talk about banning England.

If there is evidence then it really needs to be in the public domain then the debate can stop.

One last word on though, sometimes enough is enough and you have to stick up for yourself, your friends and what you believe, so even fighting is not necessary wrong and this comes from someone who is and has NOT been a football hooligan.

They were filmed by undercover police officers, who they also confronted. Think if they were attacked, they would want somebody filming it to prove their innocence. The film was examined by football officers in the UK and it resulted in a ban. We dont get to see evidence of other crimes particularly. Really dont understand any reason for the evidence being put forward for public scrutiny.
 








drew

Drew
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Oct 3, 2006
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Because the fact that the Russian fans famous for their fighting are parading it as a mark of respect to people they have been fighting against.

Football Hooligans are not actually out to do major damage to each other. They have a stand up fight and then move on to the next fight . If they have had a good fight with some opposing fans. Parading their flag is a mark of respect for the fight they have just had.

That's why I claimed that their flag ending up in the hands of the Russians and them parading it on a ''float'' doesn't do their claim for innocence any favours

You idiot. Do not want to cause major damage but when someone is unconscious on the ground they are willing to continue to pummel and kick their head.
 










Bolton va va

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Nov 20, 2012
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Because the fact that the Russian fans famous for their fighting are parading it as a mark of respect to people they have been fighting against.

Football Hooligans are not actually out to do major damage to each other. They have a stand up fight and then move on to the next fight . If they have had a good fight with some opposing fans. Parading their flag is a mark of respect for the fight they have just had.

That's why I claimed that their flag ending up in the hands of the Russians and them parading it on a ''float'' doesn't do their claim for innocence any favours

Ha ha ha
 


Jan 30, 2008
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So not found guilty of an offence in France, but convicted here for an offence that did not happen in this country. Seems questionable.

Still it will allow everyone a bit of hand-wringing on here.

See the Russians seem to have got away with it.

Balkham at his best???
regards
DR
 








Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
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The banning order results for an incident that was an hour or two before the Russian organized thugs came into the square.

Something you said earlier but didn't reply to me

How do you know that the Russian fans weren't looking for English fans to fight before the Main square incident or did the Russian fans happen to come across this group and set on them before the main square confrontation? (a warm up so to speak?) Or are you implying that these Brighton fans instigated the trouble and that it would have been out of character for the Russians to have started on them first?

Care to comment this time?
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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Prague, Czech Republic
Something you said earlier but didn't reply to me



Care to comment this time?

Again,, I dont. Im going by an NSC eye witness who said they saw this incident an hour or two before the main attack by Russian thugs, and the fact that a police undercover officer filmed them, and was confronted by them according to the evidence the police have.
 








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