[Travel] Beware dyke Road and North street bus lanes are now 24 hours !

[Peter Grummit]

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My son has been driving down Dyke Road into North Street at approximately 8.50 ish each evening for the past two weeks past the sign below that shows 8am to 8pm.
Since last week each day he has been receiving fixed penalty notice for driving in a restricted bus lane, 12 at the last count. He has been contesting these each day, but as the number increased he became concerned that he maybe have not read the signs correctly and started to doubt himself.

We told him that he needed to go to the town hall and sort it, if he had been mistaken, he needed to put some payment plan in action (he has limited income) so that the problem did not become too big, debt collectors adding fee etc.

He was initially fobbed off with “its all dealt with online” you need to appeal ect, but eventually with persistence he got someone to talk to him.
When they looked into it they admitted it was a known problem and that a “contractor had put the wrong signs up” and it was now restricted 24 hours a day !

If he's been driving DOWN Dyke Road into North St then he could be in trouble, as this sign is going UP North Street into Dyke Rd/Western rd. As Bozza's picture points out, the bottom Dyke Rd is a clear No Entry to cars at all times.

 

[kemptown kid]

Because it's twice as fast if cars are using two lanes instead of one.

Indeed. This is an issue on Edward Street/Eastern Road where most drivers seem unaware that the bus lane is only for very limited peak times.

 

[Weststander]

Sorry I don’t get this...why would anyone drive in a bus lane? I never take a chance of driving in a bus lane at any time. Certainly when driving, very rarely, in Brighton, I always avoid western road, north street etc as there is no point in taking a chance.

You were right to be cautious. The cameras are everywhere, placed throughout the bus lane stretches on lamp posts.

My wife in the last year has received 2 £30 penalties for impatiently entering bus lanes about to end, just a few metres prematurely - on the Lewes Road south-west bound and Preston Road northbound at the bowls club/Shell garage by Preston Park.

The cameras are small, unassuming and not in eye-catching yellow.

 

[LadySeagull]

You were right to be cautious. The cameras are everywhere, placed throughout the bus lane stretches on lamp posts.

My wife in the last year has received 2 £30 penalties for impatiently entering bus lanes about to end, just a few metres prematurely - on the Lewes Road south-west bound and Preston Road northbound at the bowls club/Shell garage by Preston Park.

The cameras are small, unassuming and not in eye-catching yellow.

They were both appealable, pepipoo forum deal with bus lane fines and where a bus lane is about to end, crossing the lines a few metres prematurely can be successfully argued as de minimis ('the law should not concern itself with trifling matters').

We told him that he needed to go to the town hall and sort it, if he had been mistaken, he needed to put some payment plan in action (he has limited income) so that the problem did not become too big, debt collectors adding fee etc.

Wrong on both counts.

He can't appeal them in one hit, he will have to appeal each and every one with that photo you took and mentioning what the staff member admitted.

They will ALL be cancelled, if not first time then at adjudication. There is no way they can be upheld. If he's unsure get him to post on pepipoo (no Hotmail emails):

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=30

As for the other way on Dyke Rd, where there is a no entry sign, if that conflicted with a 8am-8pm limited time bus lane sign (which I assume it doesn't) then any PCN issued by post would be for driving past a no entry sign (a different contravention than 'being in a bus lane').

Anyway all 12 that are the subject of this thread, will be cancelled as long as he doesn't miss any - that's the danger. Get them organised and print off proof for each one that they;ve all been appealed online, for peace of mind that none are ignored.

 

[Garage_Doors]

My son got 12 of these letters today , thankfully all in the same envelope saying they have all been cancelled

 

[The Lemming Stomper]

If anyone can help much appreciated...

I got a bus lane fine today the lane being 'North St Z'...

I'm not sure where this is from the picture but guess it's turning left at the Clock tower after driving up West St then driving up Dyke Rd...

Has this been restricted for long? I used to do deliveries in a private car and went that way many a time without any problems...

If not, anyone got any idea where North St Z is ?

 

[WATFORD zero]

If anyone can help much appreciated...

I got a bus lane fine today the lane being 'North St Z'...

I'm not sure where this is from the picture but guess it's turning left at the Clock tower after driving up West St then driving up Dyke Rd...

Has this been restricted for long? I used to do deliveries in a private car and went that way many a time without any problems...

If not, anyone got any idea where North St Z is ?

I was coming home that way a week or so ago and just saw the signs in time. I hadn't noticed them before so assume they're recent.

 

[One Love]

If anyone can help much appreciated...

I got a bus lane fine today the lane being 'North St Z'...

I'm not sure where this is from the picture but guess it's turning left at the Clock tower after driving up West St then driving up Dyke Rd...

Has this been restricted for long? I used to do deliveries in a private car and went that way many a time without any problems...

If not, anyone got any idea where North St Z is ?

I'd like this confirmed too.

I've always used this as a quick way out of town

 

[trueblue]

Sorry I don’t get this...why would anyone drive in a bus lane? I never take a chance of driving in a bus lane at any time. Certainly when driving, very rarely, in Brighton, I always avoid western road, north street etc as there is no point in taking a chance.

There are lots of bus lanes in this country that operate in specified hours only - and it makes absolute sense for cars to use them when it's allowed as it keeps traffic moving. It's pretty annoying here that half the road is effectively blocked off outside of busy times, just so a couple of buses an hour can have a lane to themselves. Western Road/North Street fair enough - but for the A23 and the seafront it's overkill.

 

[trueblue]

I'd like this confirmed too.

I've always used this as a quick way out of town

Turning left from West Street at the Clock Tower did used to be fine as long as you didn't enter Western Road. I think they changed it recently, although it's not that obvious until it's too late. You now have to go all over the place adding to the general congestion before you can get anywhere near Seven Dials from there.

 

[Notters]

Sorry I don’t get this...why would anyone drive in a bus lane? I never take a chance of driving in a bus lane at any time. Certainly when driving, very rarely, in Brighton, I always avoid western road, north street etc as there is no point in taking a chance.

Well you'd get at least a minor fault for NOT driving in the bus lane, if it's the left hand lane of two lanes and not operational.

 

[Jeremiah]

Is the A259 still closed going Eastwards ? as I was planning to use it to get to the Race Hill Saturday

 

[Chicken Run]

Is the A259 still closed going Eastwards ? as I was planning to use it to get to the Race Hill Saturday

It is at present, where you travelling from?

 

[Weststander]

Is the A259 still closed going Eastwards ? as I was planning to use it to get to the Race Hill Saturday

Closed both ways = carnage.

 

[Chicken Run]

Closed both ways = carnage.

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Wrong again It’s closed Eastbound, open Westbound x Trust me i’m a cabbie

Edit and I know you’ll fact check me

Brighton road partially reopens outside fire-damaged hotel - BBC News

The A259 is open again westbound on Brighton seafront but remains closed eastbound.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Jeremiah]

It is at present, where you travelling from?

Hove. I can take other routes but it is my preferred choice.

Closed both ways = carnage.

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Thanks for that, Unbelievable that such a major road is closed for so long.

 

[Jeremiah]

Wrong again It’s closed Eastbound, open Westbound x Trust me i’m a cabbie

So no temp traffic lights allowing flow both ways ?

 

[Chicken Run]

Hove. I can take other routes but it is my preferred choice.

Thanks for that, Unbelievable that such a major road is closed for so long.

The west st diversion on Saturday into Queens Road and down North Road will be tricky Saturday too

 

[Chicken Run]

So no temp traffic lights allowing flow both ways ?

Nope

 

[Chicken Run]

Indeed. This is an issue on Edward Street/Eastern Road where most drivers seem unaware that the bus lane is only for very limited peak times.

Sshhh , i can use the bus lanes and don’t want any riff raff realising this, i mean it’s not as if they have signs up telling people the time restrictions that they can’t use them