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[Football] Betting sponsorship on shirts should be banned







Normal Rob

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
5,797
Somerset
Can we ban betting advertising altogether please? As well as possibly saving many thousands from starting something that may end in crippling debts, it might force the closure of TalkSport radio.
 




Kuipers Supporters Club

Well-known member
Feb 10, 2009
5,770
GOSBTS
Agree with this.

Also can’t believe high street bookies are back open, this would have been the perfect time to abolish them.
 


Knocky's Nose

Mon nez est retiré.
May 7, 2017
4,190
Eastbourne
If people want to bet, they will bet - as long as there is a service there.

The only way betting will slow down is if it becomes stigmatised, or unfashionable. Think Drink Driving and Smoking - both things which ruined lives through accidents and disease which have become something generally frowned upon, whereas 40 years ago they were perfectly normal things to do - and most people did.
 








Arthur

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
8,760
Buxted Harbour
Aren't more than half the teams in the EPL sponsored by a betting organisation?

Yep and the Championship. Because they have very deep pockets and can pay top dollar. Most of them aren't even British brands.

Crazy people are advocating this on here given how the person bank rolling our club has and continues to make his money. Also crazy that people are happy to see millions if not billions taken out of the game given the state of the world at the moment.

It will happen as people need a crusade....won't change anything as the tobacco industry proves.
 






Shropshire Seagull

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2004
8,788
Telford
Aren't more than half the teams in the EPL sponsored by a betting organisation?

Just looked it up - it's 10 of 20.
2019/20 Premier League Shirt Sponsors
Team Shirt Sponsor Industry Headquarters
Arsenal Emirates Airline Dubai, UAE
Aston Villa W88 Gambling Philippines
Bournemouth M88 Gambling Philippines & Gibraltar
Brighton & Hove Albion American Express Financial services USA
Burnley LoveBet Gambling Malta
Chelsea Yokohama Tyres Automotive Japan
Crystal Palace ManBetX Gambling Malta
Everton SportPesa Gambling Kenya & Isle of Man
Leicester City King Power Duty-free shop Thailand
Liverpool Standard Chartered Financial services & banking UK
Manchester City Etihad Airways Airline Abu Dhabi, UAE
Manchester United Chevrolet Automotive USA
Newcastle United Fun88 Gambling Isle of Man
Norwich City Dafabet Gambling Philippines
Sheffield United USG Financial services Australia
Southampton LD Sports (Sports) Media China
Tottenham Hotspur AIA Life insurance & financial services Hong Kong
Watford Sportsbet.io Gambling Curaçao
West Ham United Betway Gambling Malta
Wolverhampton Wanderers ManBetX Gambling Malta
 










pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,033
West, West, West Sussex
Maybe I'm being a bit naive here, but is having 32RED or 888 or whatever splashed across a football shirt really going to make a non-gambler open an account and start gambling?
 




blockhseagull

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2006
7,364
Southampton
I actually find it baffling that yet again football is being demonized.

Without even getting into the should betting sponsorship be allowed debate.... to recommend it should be stopped in football yet allowed to carry on in other sports is yet again blaming football and it’s supporters as ‘the problem’

Also in the current climate I do think restricting the avenues football clubs (especially further down the ladder) can maximize their revenues isn’t great for the game either.

Gambling addiction is obviously a terrible issue and should be looked at.... but I don’t think banning shirt sponsorship is going to change much. Perhaps the amount of TV advertising could be reduced but there are far better ways to try and help people than just banning sponsorship.
 


Spiros

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
2,376
Too far from the sun
They should just ban gambling altogether. Pointless industry which only causes suffering.
Prohibition of anything that people actually want to do just drives it underground. The gambling industry does need to be more regulated and more done to ensure the vulnerable (and addicted) are better protected but in the end there will always be those who want to bet on something. Once you drive it underground it gets controlled by organised crime and the government also lose out on tax revenue which has to be got from elsewhere.

Also my father used to be a professional punter and consistently made money at it for many years. To say that the industry only causes suffering is very much a blinkered view
 


Spiros

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
2,376
Too far from the sun
Disagree, it's not like drink or drugs where people have a strong desire to do it regardless of its availability.

People gamble so much because it is a convenient form of entertainment. Bookies are everywhere - online gambling is everywhere. For the hardcore gamblers, casinos are in every major town.

If it were illegal very few people would be so desperate to gamble that they would find any dodgy underground casino to do so. They would more often than not, just not gamble, which would be a huge positive.

Ban it and let it go underground.

There are plenty of unfortunates out there who are hooked on gambling and would continue regardless of whether it's legal or not. Ban gambling and instead of them pissing their money away at 888.com we'll be back to the day's of bookies runners and debts being collected via damaged kneecaps. Loads of people gambled long before online gambling appeared and long before the legalisation of high street bookies in 1960. The facts that so many gamblers were out there was one of the main drivers of that legalisation.

When something popular is banned the only beneficiaries of that prohibition are the organised crime gangs, that much we know from history, especially the early part of the 20th century
 


rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
4,988
I see "American Express" on thousands of shirts each year. I've never felt inclined to go and get an AMEX card. :shrug:
 






BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,056
Some will see no harm in gambling sponsors because "it's a choice" and "you don't have to bet".

Others, like myself, think it must be sodding difficult if you've got a gambling addiction to see gambling firms plastered over the shirts, hoardings, matchday programmes and TV and radio adverts and have to resist the urge to put a few quid down.
 


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