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Zebedee

Anyone seen Florence?
Jul 8, 2003
8,052
Hangleton
Have you had your refund already?
 


Tarpon

Well-known member
Sep 12, 2013
3,800
BN1
£50 at 28/1 on Real to win first half when one down. James Rodríguez owes me a pint (or two):facepalm:
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,100
I lost £2.32 but get that back tonight plus a big return on a yet chosen Bayern next scorer or next score a header.

Next goal being a penalty was 16/1 in live betting yesterday.
 






Oscar

Well-known member
Nov 10, 2003
3,864
The in-play draw didn't quite come off but all ready for another go tonight. Very tempted to go with over 1.5 goals as a pre-match bet though as surely Barca and Bayern isn't going to be a cagey affair.
 


Nathan

Well-known member
Jan 8, 2010
3,788
Have gone for £50 on over 0.5 goals at 1/25, returns £52, and also have £4 on 0-0 at 12/1, returns £52. Yes either way I will be £2 down, but then have the chance to win big with the free £50 bet.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,937
Surrey
The in-play draw didn't quite come off but all ready for another go tonight. Very tempted to go with over 1.5 goals as a pre-match bet though as surely Barca and Bayern isn't going to be a cagey affair.

Assuming you do >1.5 goals and an in-play draw, I think that is risky. The problem with that is that if it ends up 1-0* to either team, you've lost £50. If that is a risk worth taking, then why not go with over 2.5 goals instead? You'll get better odds, and the 1-1 is covered by your in-play draw (as well as the 0-0).




*1-0 is the most common scoreline in Champions League football since 1992:
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles...Publications/01/88/50/85/1885085_DOWNLOAD.pdf
 




Chinman3000

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
1,269
Assuming you do >1.5 goals and an in-play draw, I think that is risky. The problem with that is that if it ends up 1-0* to either team, you've lost £50. If that is a risk worth taking, then why not go with over 2.5 goals instead? You'll get better odds, and the 1-1 is covered by your in-play draw (as well as the 0-0).

*1-0 is the most common scoreline in Champions League football since 1992:
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles...Publications/01/88/50/85/1885085_DOWNLOAD.pdf

This actually works out a better deal even if you want to be cautious and cover the 1-0's off evither way with another bookies.

1-0 Barca s 8/1 & 0-1 Bayern is 15/1. Therefore £6.50 & £3.50 retrospectivly will cover your £50, then put the £50 on over 2.5 which gives you £90 return. Take off the £10 spent covering the one nils and you are still £30 better off this way.

Unless I am missing something?
 


MattBackHome

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
11,865
I was on the in play (HT) Madrid win as well.

So no joy there but looking forward to making a monkey of some Bet365 chumps tonight. Actually watching the match will help*

*No it won't.
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,100
I was on the in play (HT) Madrid win as well.

So no joy there but looking forward to making a monkey of some Bet365 chumps tonight. Actually watching the match will help*

*No it won't.

Nice one. Odds of 9-1 plus your money back will make you a monkey, me old son. Risk free, too.
 




reigate

New member
Nov 10, 2005
921
Has everyone who did the > 0.5 goals pre match and then draw in play had the refund? I went down another route last night to gaurantee (by also using another bookie) a profit on any result, but every time I have done the above bet the draw has come in so I have never tested it. Just worried they will catch up with the guaranteeing a profit.

I once had a problem with a £2,000 bonus Bet 365 offered so want to stay on the right side of thern!
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,937
Surrey
This actually works out a better deal even if you want to be cautious and cover the 1-0's off evither way with another bookies.

1-0 Barca s 8/1 & 0-1 Bayern is 15/1. Therefore £6.50 & £3.50 retrospectivly will cover your £50, then put the £50 on over 2.5 which gives you £90 return. Take off the £10 spent covering the one nils and you are still £30 better off this way.

Unless I am missing something?

I've done the analysis here, and I think we've nailed this between us:

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With the >0.5 goals / in-play draw bet, you don't really win unless it's a draw.
With the >2.5 goals / hedge / in-play draw bet, you win every way, unless it finishes 1-0 to either team.

And either way, you can't actually lose.
 


ArfurW8

Active member
May 22, 2009
725
Fort Neef
On the Betfair exchange 1=0 is 8-1, 0-0 is 13/1 and 0-1 is 17.5/1.
Maybe over 1.5 or 2.5 goals could be the option for the first bet.
 
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Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,937
Surrey
On the Betfair exchange 1=0 is 8=1, 0-0 is 13/1 and 0-1 is 17.5/1.
Maybe over 1.5 or 2.5 goals could be the option for the first bet.

I don't see the point of doing >1.5 + in-play draw, as it doesn't cover 1-0 or 0-1 - same problem as >2.5 goals, except the odds are worse.

So the only reason to do >1.5 is if you believe it'll be 1-1, but then surely you probably wouldn't do these two markets anyway.
 


Chinman3000

Well-known member
Sep 28, 2011
1,269
I've done the analysis here, and I think we've nailed this between us:

View attachment 65169

With the >0.5 goals / in-play draw bet, you don't really win unless it's a draw.
With the >2.5 goals / hedge / in-play draw bet, you win every way, unless it finishes 1-0 to either team.

And either way, you can't actually lose.

Yep this is what I'll be doing- great spreadsheet. Could even afford to put a little more on the one nil's to balance it better....
 


ArfurW8

Active member
May 22, 2009
725
Fort Neef
I don't see the point of doing >1.5 + in-play draw, as it doesn't cover 1-0 or 0-1 - same problem as >2.5 goals, except the odds are worse.

So the only reason to do >1.5 is if you believe it'll be 1-1, but then surely you probably wouldn't do these two markets anyway.


I see what you mean, I am leaning towards over 2.5, covering 0-0,0-1, and 1-0 on the exchange then backing the draw in play.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,937
Surrey
Yep this is what I'll be doing- great spreadsheet. Could even afford to put a little more on the one nil's to balance it better....

I'll update it and re-post with latest odds (>2.5 have tightened to 3/4, Betfair exchange odds on both 1-0 have drifted), and make it a little more balanced.
 








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